Staying in the EU

[ivor43]

Hi
Sorry about that not deliberate just hadn't seen the figures. But just 3.4% is not really convincing. The whole majority nationally is Only 3.8%. This may not be a Large enough Majority for the Gov to activate Clause 50. it is certainly Not Convincing. the Scotland vote 62% to 38%. Has to be given a very great deal of thought, this, to me, would mean that the Westminster gov would not have the authority to pull them out with the UK. Without a great deal of Trouble.


ivor

[jones20]

Ivor I go back to my last question as I have not been living in Wales for many years why have they bitten off the hand that feeds them

[ivor43]

hi.

Oh Dear i was hopeing you had forgotten that bit. Well, now some people are not going to like this. From the start of the campaign, and the reason i have kept out of most discussions, is that the ''Leave'' campaign has been 'Mushrooming' the people, Keeping them in the dark and feeding them ''Bull****''.
The whole thing was never about immigration or Money for the NHS. The 350Bn painted on the 'leave ' bus was fiction which was proved but it was not removed.
But with regard to your Question, if you look at post ''36'' it would seem that a lot of welsh were for remain so did not wish to ''Bite off the hand...''. so what happened. With such a small majority, it may have been down to''Leavers'' using their own transport to ferry their supporters to the Polling Stations. and it is certainly not a big enough majority to pull the country out.


ivor

[welchboy]

Another interesting point, will the British Army be back policing the boarders of Northern Island. How will the vote to leave impact on the Belfast Agreement of 1998, which was the cornerstone of the peace settlement in that anyone born in NI., has the right to be a citizen of the U.K., or the Republic or both. which would mean that one could be a EU citizen and yet not be EU citizen. No doubt this will be addressed in the coming months or will it. Yet I have the gut feeling that the shot will fall once again on the poor British squalid, who will find himself policing the boarders of NI.

[jones20]

Read your post with interest Ivor then googled the point you make to find you were correct in stating its not legally binding and can be overturned in parliament. I am not on any social media site but my next door neighbor has a son who is and is of an age that this decision will effect him.He tells me that many people voted to leave not reliasing the full consequences of what they had done and having Seen what has occurred now regret that decision.I see that the first minister of Scotland is again thinking of a referendum as she believes that Scotland wishes to remain in the EU but if she is not happy with this result then Iwould have thought that this would be a better course of action for her with the number of SMPs Labour,conservative and many others who would outnumber the leave MPs by 2--1 this decision could easily be overturned but it would take a brave man to start this off.Of course we could have a general election and a party could run on the promise of joining the EU as part of its manifesto. I just hope that we have not cut off our nose to spite our face.One last point I watched Ed Balls on TV last night and he made a comment "don't be surprised if the EU come back with a compromise to put to the British people in a referendum " As it stands at the moment we will just have to wait and see if the decision made by the British public is the right one I just have a sickly feeling that we have messed up the future of our children and grand children

[steve wright]

The EU also has egg on its face. If Merkel had handled the negotiations better with Dave and given him something better to convince the UK public regarding immigration etc the vote may well have been different. By the way I voted out and would do so again

[ivor43]

Morning Folks
This makes for some interesting reading.

http://www.standard.co.uk/business/a...-a3272621.html


ivor

[jones20]

Morning Folks
This makes for some interesting reading.

http://www.standard.co.uk/business/a...-a3272621.html


ivor

thanks for that Ivor however you now got to find enough MPs with balls to vote it down,they will protect their own backs making sure they get their seat back at the next general election and not do something that's best for the country.I voted out and would do so again however what worries me is the uncertainty that it has caused and this will carry on for the next few years and now they are talking about a general election as well.

[ivor43]

hi.
yes i think another G.E is very likely. as any replacement for DC is going to be an ''Un elected PM'' and i doubt if that would give them the authority to Negotiate any new deal. But if that article is correct, and i suspect it is, then i can not see an Act of Parliament getting through. As you say. the uncertainty is the problem. i read an article re British Holidaymakers in Greece being unable to change 'British £' in their Hotel, no one knew what the rate of exchange was. I suspect it will get worse for a while until the 'Dust Clears'


ivor

[jones20]

hi.
yes i think another G.E is very likely. as any replacement for DC is going to be an ''Un elected PM'' and i doubt if that would give them the authority to Negotiate any new deal. But if that article is correct, and i suspect it is, then i can not see an Act of Parliament getting through. As you say. the uncertainty is the problem. i read an article re British Holidaymakers in Greece being unable to change 'British £' in their Hotel, no one knew what the rate of exchange was. I suspect it will get worse for a while until the 'Dust Clears'


ivor

I also read tourists were having trouble changing money in the USA and Australia and other countries