Staying in the EU

**ivor43** · 29-06-2016, 15:49

hi again.
Let me just add something which may clear up some Confusion. in the article i linked.#57 one para states that
'' MP's are Representatives not Delegates. The difference being they are there to decide what ... In Their Judgement is good for us and the Country, Not simply to do what we say''.

The article further suggests that as many as 70% of MP's are for Remain. 20% for leave and 10% undecided. If these figures are close to being correct, i can not see C50 being triggered any time soon.

ivor

**ivor43** · 12-09-2016, 14:45

hi folks.
Nearly 3 months down the line from the vote and Nothing has changed, Nothing. we are still in the EU. and No one has any idea where we go from Here. Great. the following is a link to a Guardian Article from Sat 10th. Never mind the politics of the Newspaper. the article makes interesting reading..

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...uded-brexiters

ivor

**jones20** · 12-09-2016, 18:03

The trouble is if they don,t carry out the wishes of the vote then come the next General Election they start to look for a new job because people have long memories and they will not vote them back in.

**ivor43** · 13-09-2016, 12:36

Hi all.
The problem is that they don't have to do anything, the vote was non binding with No Legal basis. But there is another problem. you say about the public reaction to their wishes not being carried out. i think there may be a very strong reaction to having been Lied to. There is also a problem with the size of the Majority. 3.8% is a very small figure which could disappear very quickly. i have read, somewhere, that in a recent poll this figure has gone. the remain folks are back in the lead. the PM is in a very tricky situation. she has to be seen to be doing something, but the realistic situation is that it will be extremely difficult if not a Disaster it we do pull out. this is becoming more obvious as time goes on. take the Japanese threat to pull out this should be taken very seriously. The UK of the 21st C is totally different from pre EU days. we have ''Sold Off '' so much of our industry to foreign investors that i do not see how we can survive if they withdraw their support.For Example. the Steel Industry, and this is just one industry. We have become To Reliant on Foreign Investment. I think there is an element of 'Going through the Motions' but in the end it will prove to be an impossibility to get out. While i have some idea of Constitutional law, which nobody is talking about yet, it will take Acts of Parliament to do it. which with the current make up of M.P's is unlikely to happen. This is going to run for many, many years.

**Bricoates** · 13-09-2016, 19:15

"Brexit means Brexit and we're going to make a success of it."
Theresa May

" i think there may be a very strong reaction to having been Lied to."
VORI 101

Is Theresa going to lie as well?

**jones20** · 13-09-2016, 20:59

Strange I have spoken to many people who voted to remain yet given the chance again they would vote out I have yet to meet someone who voted out but would vote to remain in.But I am getting peed off with these people who lost the vote keeping on about it had the vote gone the other way I would have accepted that and not made a song and dance about it thats why we live in a democracy whilst I agree with you on the fact that it has no legal basis the majority of the people voted out.If we had a general election and the same winning party only had a majority of 3.8% would we accept that the answer is yes we would the people have voted so.If people are not happy with the decision then vote with your feet and leave the uk.On a final note my mate works with a load of Polish workers and when he spoke to them about it they said had they had the vote then they would have voted the same way has the rest of the country leave the EU so what does that tell you, also one last thing lies where told but they were told by both sides

Originally Posted by vori101

Hi all.
The problem is that they don't have to do anything, the vote was non binding with No Legal basis. But there is another problem. you say about the public reaction to their wishes not being carried out. i think there may be a very strong reaction to having been Lied to. There is also a problem with the size of the Majority. 3.8% is a very small figure which could disappear very quickly. i have read, somewhere, that in a recent poll this figure has gone. the remain folks are back in the lead. the PM is in a very tricky situation. she has to be seen to be doing something, but the realistic situation is that it will be extremely difficult if not a Disaster it we do pull out. this is becoming more obvious as time goes on. take the Japanese threat to pull out this should be taken very seriously. The UK of the 21st C is totally different from pre EU days. we have ''Sold Off '' so much of our industry to foreign investors that i do not see how we can survive if they withdraw their support.For Example. the Steel Industry, and this is just one industry. We have become To Reliant on Foreign Investment. I think there is an element of 'Going through the Motions' but in the end it will prove to be an impossibility to get out. While i have some idea of Constitutional law, which nobody is talking about yet, it will take Acts of Parliament to do it. which with the current make up of M.P's is unlikely to happen. This is going to run for many, many years.