pesons who appear '' invisible ''

[BennytheBall]

benny in response to your post. and i will also speak bluntly. Firstly in my original thread i expressed my reluctance, as a non military member, to comment, however circumstances lead me to change that opinion. the comments i have made are as a result of posts on OPEN forum this i believe gives me and any other member the right to comment if we believe that comment to be relevant. i can assure you that have absolutely no intention of telling you how to run he RWFCA. however if a matter arises on OPEN Forum,that is within my knowledge and experience,that i feel needs questioning then i will do so.secondly. i totally agree that the forum is a very good vehicle for discussion.Provided it is OPEN to all members to express their opinions even if these opinions are inconvenient to others.this is after all a DEMOCRATIC forum. i would have thought that All ex RWF personnel, branch members or not, have an automatic right to speak on RWF matters.Thirdly.i am quite sure that you are '' sick with the back stabbing and bickering '' but maybe you need to look at he reasons for this.i seem to recall,on a number of occasions, posts deploring the lack of information being sent to members.and i would point out that the RWFCA is not the RWRA it is a totally separate entity and should remain so, of course that is only my opinion which it appears others may not share.Fourthly. if you believe there is a '' witch hunt '' in the background (ie invisible) then maybe you should consider WHY ?. if you were to talk to members and listen to what they are saying you just might find out.and Benny you can be assured as an ex police officer with several years experience i would not seek to lecture you with regard to ''legal jargon'' or even bother you with requirements for obtaining charitable status or other legal niceties.finally. this regimental merger is not the first. i have been surfing the web and if anyone is interested the Devon & Dorset web site is interesting.on a personal note. i spent most of my life in the Wrexham area and am fully aware of the importance of the regiment to the town. i watched many parades as a youngster and believe me if i question something it is only because,i, as much as you guys want the RWFCA to continue.

VoriMany Thanks for informative post, all things I said in my post are of a personal matter to me, and like you said this forum is an OPEN forum where members can express their PERSONAL feelings, I for one is not are in the " releams" of getting into slanging matches or unruly debates espi[ecialy on this forum.I strongly believe that with all this and I'll say it again "bickering" going on people are going to destroy this wonderful Comrades' Association that we have, all I ask is lets us build on what we got.I know from the feedback of my branch members' that this unease in the Association is not doing us proud.We've got what we've got so let us run with it.Best RegardsBennytheBall

[Rog Ball 01]

Ian / Vori

Thank you both for the threads, but I must say that there is a BRICK WALL being built between members of the RWF CA, whether they are 'stirring it' or are genuine persons.

What is nereded in my opinion is a stand off by all, and let the secretaries to deal withg the problems, and to get these problems sorted ASAP. I will say one thing thought, if a Secretary is not available, and a 'stand in' secretary is nominated, the nominated person should be allowed to have there say, and not be told that their comments are unwelcome.

[steve carey]

Guys I live in Birkenhead what would be my closest branch,Not thought about joining before but listening to some comments on this thread sounds like if your not a member keep your gob shut, If I am mistaken please reply.

Steve Scouse Carey. Y.N.W.A

[ivor43]

Steve. your nearest branch would be either, Shotton & Deeside, sec bennytheball or Chester.sec Mr A Roberts.

[steve carey]

Cheers mucca,

[chow]

Steve my friend i am a member of the shotton and deeside branch.
but you can join any branch you like.
but my friend this is a open forum and as a member you have the right to comment on any thread that is posted.
i fee that if people do not want comment then do not post...
please do not feel that with out a card you have no voice..not on this forum...

[ivor43]

rog. a couple of interesting points here. a BRICK WALL hmm yes but who is building it. i would not like to say, but when you read some posts closely then it might appear that some people, may, have a different agenda.for some more interesting reading.read the closed thread ''reunion issues '' of2xx/08/11.
your second point re the stand off,yes i agree,But. i have some reservations about this.i think that keeping some pressure on branch secs keeps them ''honest ''( as i have experienced) the duties of a branch sec are to represent the wishes of the membership.and only their wishes.
your final point.with the N.U.R. branch if the sec was not available, i, as assistant took the meeting, minutes included. we also delegated a member to the A.G.M. who had full powers to speak and vote on behalf of the branch.


ivor

[rich]

after reading this thread i am at a loss as to why im still on here.so as from this date i will not be coming back .as it is getting more like a kids playground every day