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Undecided - please post why
Hi All
I seem to be sent a bit off track on this thread slightly, to the fact Have I missed the boat on this thread, what do we want to ballot branches on?
Is it the motion set to invite wives/girlfriends to attend the Annual Reunion Dinner, if so my branch member's are against the motion having put it to them on our last monthly meeting. Or is it the motion about the Annual Secretaries meeting in April if the fact that it can't be held due to the resignation of our Association Chairman?
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I'm sorry but I've always believed that the RWF was known as a "family" Regiment and I cannot understand why some people would want to exclude women/wives from the Reunion function. My wife was the daughter of a member of the RWF who served 22 years. She was born into the RWF "family", I always tell people she did longer in the Regiment than me and she's proud to associate herself with that fact. Surely with numbers at the Reunion Dinner dwindling the way forward would be wives/women at the Dinner, this would attract more of our members to the Dinner as we see more and more wives/women attending the weekend, the majority of whom see it as a way of meeting up with old friends themselves. Certain members need to understand that if we're to survive then we need to change with the times, it is after all the 21st Century.
Seize The Day
According to my Members who were there in Numbers it was Voted on and Shot Down Chow. Braz
Hello all,
The main reason for peoples views is that we are not being treated with respect from our hierarchy. I have been sacked as an executive member and I still do not know why. I have served the full course of 3 former Regimental Secretaries, these include Captain Peter Shinn, Major "Monty" Robinson, and Major Arthur Ellingham,up to the present incumbent which covers many years of honest endeavour and devotion, and I feel I can provide much experience to the executive committee. I am of the opinion that I asked too many pertinent questions and spoke my mind.Also I was precluded from attending the latest executive meeting, and I MAY even have been found guilty by the members of an executive committee none of which has been voted into office, but have been co-opted.In point of fact I was also denied the right to defend my corner and even make a plea in mitigation or have an officer of the regiment to support my case,when it was heard in our ancestral home Wrexham and which is the norm in these cases plus of course I have been refused the right of appeal or even had the details of if and how I can claim expenses for an appeal or had the rules on the statute of limitations explained to me, and the letter sacking me was not sent by recorded delivery.The right of appeal is some thing that every recidivist can claim but is "Verboten" to me. I am sick and tired of attending meetings held under "Star Chamber rules and Sub Rosa" conditions, and an unending situation of bullying and threats.We have had a surfeit of ambiguity and hesitancy for over 6 years now. And this is longer than it took to win two World wars despite an assurance that more transparency will emerge from Major General Porter. I Have never been afraid of man or beast in my chequered career but what has happened to me to day,can happen to my detractors tomorrow. I would like to quote two famous American presidents.First President Franklin Delano Roosevelt who also served for four terms of office " We have nothing to fear except fear itself", the other quote comes from President Abraham Lincoln who famously remarked " You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time" the whole matter of my dismissal is the worst case of ineptitude I have ever witnessed please forgive me for another famous quote from Lord Acton " Power tends to corrupt absolute power does corrupt I rest my case M'lud.( Also Ladies and Gentlemen)
RBD
Last edited by jungle1810; 04-03-2012 at 15:40.
The proposal was put out to Branches, but I as an individual member was never asked. As far as contributions go, I do not contribute any cash to the RWFCA, but I am quite willing to do so, as I do for the L of F.
Who is running the RWFCA at the present, is it Cardiff or Wrexham? I am a "ROYAL WELCHMAN" and have been since 1963. Therefore if I upset people by saying that we need to get things sorted about who we are, I dont care. There is to much back biting going on, whether it is up front or behind peoples back, and how many of RWFCA are not true members and will move to RWCA without even blinking an eye.
Last edited by Rog Ball 01; 02-03-2012 at 18:52.
Hingey, Why cant the RWFCA use Hightown BarracksOriginally Posted by Paul Hinge
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Roger
I'm not going to get into a slanging match with Brian Donavan on this Forum but I resent the assertion that I was not voted onto the Executive....Brian for your information I was voted on.I suggest Brian if you feel you have some dirty washing to air please don't use this Forum as a vehicle for your point of view or you could find yourself in deep trouble legally......and as a friend, that's a bit of friendly advise mate!
There will be, I hope, in the not too distant future, some regulation to the operational matters of the RWFCA following resignations etc.
However, we still have the same 3 trustees of the funds and they have done a fantastic job during difficult times.
The rules of how the Association is to be run were laid down in 1924 and they are very explicit on membership rules you have no vote unless you are a bonefide BRANCH MEMBER.
Finally, like 01 my wife (Shirley) and kids all served with me in the RWF. Justin (my eldest) also went on to serve in our illustrious Regiment they were all part of the Regimental family and when the men were away on deployment they kept the home fires burning as do those serving now do!
On a last note. I for one think that if we are to encourage participation in our Association then in 21st century Britain we should allow them to attend our dinner there's nothing that happens at that event that would or should preclude them being there except perhaps some short-sightedness!
Hingey
Whilst not wishing to stir up political argument which seems to be rife over this matter, I have to say that it seems clear that it is a simple choice for members to make - do they want spouses to attend or not.
More and more I hear individuals talk of moving into the 21st Century and moving with the times. With due respect to those views, where does that leave time honoured traditions. Do we pick what is to remain tradition when it suits and then change others at a whim and no thought of what has gone before and upheld by those who have participated. It reminds me somewhat of individuals who wanted wives and girlfriends to be given access to the Red Dragon Club the only bastion for the single man in the Barracks. (when we didn't have company clubs).
Does the survival of the Dinner and indeed the reunion itself depend on spouses attending, who knows. If it is the case, I would suggest that it (the dinner), is doomed anyway and is it not better to die a natural death than to later point the finger of blame at those who institute change, regardless of their good and "selfless" intentions. There is also a distinction between females who have served and those who have not, as is borne out at Regmental dinners where serving female members attend what was a male only event. (Mixed dinners excepted)
Hingey you either have a poor memory or a very selective one. You may recall that you yourself used this forum to accuse a member this forum (not a million miles away from this keyboard) directly of using rheotoric (and not just "in your opinion") on another medium (fb) to make a point. You did this knowing that members had no access to confirm your finger pointing. My point is, legal threats - are they really necessary.
Last edited by Gwyn Nicholas; 05-03-2012 at 22:35.
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Hi All
I've been reading this thread with some trepidation, in the fact that these comments have all be said before and it keeps come back on the Forum and "Biting us in the A--e", time and time again.
To all, as like Paul Hinge, I too are an ELECTED member of the RWFCA Executive Committee and was at the "table" back in 2006 when the Royal Welsh formed (I was serving in the Royal Welsh on that day abiet in the TA.) The President at the time said that the RWFCA would go it alone for as long as it was viable, Well, I believe that things "move on" and the RWFCA should now move with the times. The Association I feel cannot go backwards but forward, if we are to be sustainable, as I keep repeating myself nothing changes at branch level and no one is asking branches to do that. I believe its all down to putting the RWFCA "funds" into one pot. I know a lot of RWF Comrades' don't like change, (This my personal opinion, if we don't accept change, then we will wither) As for females attending the Reunion dinner not a problem, we have ex serving female members that attend already. (I am not contradicting my branch members vote on this).
I have now stood down off my soap box
Best Regards
BennytheBall
I like the majority of people who keep an eye on the goings on of all matters RWF through this forum dont often comment however of one thing I am sure if i was a young lad thinking of joining the RFCA after reading some of the ramblings and sniping going on I wouldnt go within a 100 miles of it, its seems to me as i come up to 36 years service with 4 to go before retirement at 60 that nothing has changed in all that time to me the basic fact is that the vast majority of soldiers and ex soldiers just want to get together with their mates and have a drink when they can and talk about the old times they dont give a damn about who is on what committee or what they talk about.
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