Regimental Association Standard

[BennytheBall]

Hi Everyone
It appears that "The Cat has been let out of the Bag" No doubt this topic will be the talking point both at the RWFCA Executive meeting and annual secretaries meeting this year.

I think we are going to have to accept change (only my personal view) As for the "senior regiment in Wales" is the Royal Welsh it? you ask yourselves? ( bearing in mind when the merger took place on the 1st March 2006 a new large Infantry Regiment of Wales was formed) as with the green, RWF/RRW, North/South fiasco this forum has been down that road before, so let us wait with baited breath and see what comes from the RWFCA meetings and see if we go to the "Ball" or not.

Best Regards
BennytheBall
Branch Hon Secretary Shotton and Deeside RWFCA

[Paul Hinge]

This has been a very difficult and emotive subject which I feel has been once again been driven from RHQ RW (Cardiff) without the consultation of the various groups who are and would be involved vis-a-vis RWFCA, RRW, Welch Regt Assoc and SWB.
What RHQ fails to understand is those people who are the active members of this new association are CIVLIANS and are no longer subject to the exingences of military law.....perhaps they might well be reminded of that!
I will say however from a totally biased standpoint that hey guys we have the RWFCA which is at present a strong bond of men who served pre-2006 in the oldest infantry regiment in Wales. This new association banner is about those who served after our time. It's the Association they may well have an affinity to.
As long as RHQ understands this, and accepts that there is and still will be a diverse membership (as above) that will have a life for decades to come then as long as we are treated equitably then we can all live together, after all as an association we did chip in £25k to start their fund!

Hingey

[Barry69]

I must say in my 22 yrs in the Royal Welch I never found a North South divide in fact a I had many very good friends from both ends of the country, and still do there was banter as you would get with choice of football teams, the only man I found slightly divided was Tom Sal from the early seventies period,and it was Tom's humor, Royal Welch we where and are a family.

Regards the Regimental Association Standard I agree that it seems a done deal and this period is to air gripes in a cooling off period prior to launch!

As mentioned earlier by a member can you confirm does this RA standard replace our present RA standard - if so

Personally I believe although we must move on I feel we should not forget and the Association at present serves ex RWF servicemen and the Standard should reflect that and until the association is top heavy with ex Welsh Regiment it should not be changed - But I am a traditionalist which may not fit with Whitehall values?

But hey its seems a done deal - How do the Standard bearers feel?

No Deal Yet!


That's my bit

[ap1]

Unless you've served as a member of the Royal Welsh, it is of no consequence what your views are. It belongs to The Royal Welsh. Those guys fighting in Afghanistan will in years to come gather proudly around their standard on reunions, funerals and Remembrance Sunday. Just as we do now with our standard.

So yes we may be unhappy with the design or colour. But its not our standard. It belongs to the guys who followed us.

Thats my view.

[BennytheBall]

Hi Barry
If or When the RWFCA come under the banner of the Royal Welsh Comrades' Association which is going to be formally launched on the 10th June 2010 then everyone will have the said standard as their Association Standard and the RWFCA Standard will cease to be.

Again, IF or WHEN the RWFCA come under the banner of the Royal Welsh CA every branch will be issue with their new standard with that branches name embosed on it.

Best Regards
BennytheBall

[BennytheBall]

Totally agree with you AL, let us "old uns" give all our support to the younger members of the Regiment we HAD"our day" We all seen it, done it and worn the Tshirt.

Best Regards
BennytheBall

[Smokeyjoe]

Totaly aggree with Al,
I belong to the RWFCA not the RWA so I dont think I should comment one way or the other, the people that it will have an effect on will be the present day soldier and those who wish to join the RWA, good luck to them all.
Joe.

[Barry69]

I agree it will be the RW Association eventually and have no problems with that, But we are all entitled to our view not matter what the consequence if only to serve as our view at the time, its a discussion forum, and if as I have now been informed that the changes will take place this June (Thanks Benny) then fine so should the RA Standard change then

But will the old RA Standards be kept in remembrance of the RWF Association of which I am apart of, I am proud of our boys in Afgan too but that is not the issue.

When ever the Standard is on Parade I will be proud to see it in place, its Royal Welsh (1st Bn The RWF) is it not!

[benney]

Ive been over to the rwa to ask more about the new standard and the reason for the back ground of the standard is because that is the regt colour of the royal welsh be it 1st 2nd or 3rd bn, that being the way ahead, and nothing to do with the rrw,when i stand back and think about it ok, as it is the royal welsh now, but i know us of the 23rd will never forget who we are, we still have our badges and ties to say who we are, so guys lets go with the times.

[Rog Ball 01]

Now that all has been explained, I am inclined to say yes to the new standard; I served in the Royal Welch Fusiliers and not the RW. I agree with Al, the standard is for the current members of the Royal Welsh; whether they are in Afgan or in Tidworth.

My only hope is that the RWF CA will not have to change their standards.