4189281 Cpl William Christopher Watson - RWF 1930's

[susanjane]

I imagine that they did make notes on the way though! 3 trips to and from London in one year would reveal quite a lot of info

On looking at the 2 man photo I see that William Watson is in Service Dress rather than Police Uniform and the picture done in a studio in HK or China.

I now think that William might have been the first child of William WATSON aged 27 and Martha J ENGLAND 25 who married in early 1911 and are on the Census at 8 Percy St, Gorse Rd Swansea.
They had 7 children between Dec quarter 1912 and 1928.

A William WATSON married Doris Kinsey in Swansea in Mar q 1940 but I have only found 1 birth so far--in 1946


I am unable to look up any maps as BT still haven't done the work and I have limited access to webs.
I rather hope that someone can locate this address and The one on the Ships manifesto
Sue

[susanjane]

I had another look at Passenger info on Ancestry and found William Watson 21 coming back from Gib with several other soldiers in May 1934.Address given is 409 Pentregethin Rd Swansea--slight change in spelling

He returned again in July 1934-as I had previously found- after leave and training?About 6 weeks.
also Richard Williams 22 of Mostyn
Geoge TONG 22 of Rhyl
James MEHAGAN 22 of Dowlais
Robert Griffiths 24 of Carnarvan
Wilfred DAWREN 22 of 217 New Building Staffs
Charles DUSKERS 24 of Arsenal

These last 2 I found 2nd and 3rd letters in their names difficult to read -rather faint typing and pencil marks on the page

I cannot find William Watson on his first outward journey to Gib pre 1934 nor his return from HK or China-or India in 1938.

Sue

[susanjane]

PS --they were again travelling on Nippon Yusan line-ship SUVA MARU--I think
Sue

[ivor43]

Good Morning.
Probably the SS Suwa Maru She was on that route for several years and used to call in Gib.


ivor

[susanjane]

Dear All

I would be grateful for your help in finding the Death of William Watson born in Dec q 1912 in Swansea. At the moment we are guessing that he is the William Watson that we are trying to find! I found him on Incoming Passengers from Gibraltar in May 1934 aged 21 and also on Outgoing Passengers in July 1934 back to Gib. Home for about 6 weeks. A soldier .

His address in UK was given as 409 Pentregethin Road, Swansea. Can anyone tell me whether that was a house then or maybe a lodging house or similar. None of the other soldiers travelling with him gave that address.

He was in Swansea early in WW2 but then contact was lost. There is no obvious death for him in Wales up to 2006 when the Ancestry Death Register for England and Wales ends. He was not known to have a second name but even so there are many William Watson deaths to investigate. He would now be approaching 102 if still alive. He was a Corporal in the Royal Welch Guards.

He probably served again during WW2 but is not on CWGC records. We feel that he might well have emigrated or served abroad somewhere and might have married or died there. Had a family whose records might come up.

To obtain his Service Records the family have to have a Death Certificate.

I do not at present accessing Ancestry Worldwide Records or Find My Past or Family Research/IGI records . If anyone has easy access to these then I would be very grateful for any time and results that you can give.

Nil results would be useful in an elimination process!By private message if you would prefer,

Thank you
Sue

[ap1]

Dear All

I would be grateful for your help in finding the Death of William Watson born in Dec q 1912 in Swansea. At the moment we are guessing that he is the William Watson that we are trying to find! Looking at UK ancestry the mothers maiden name is "England"….not many of them!

[ap1]

Just to save anyone else replicating searches. In the 1911 Census , screenshot49.jpg
a collier and his wife were living at the address 409 Pentregethin, Swansea:

[susanjane]

Thank you ap1.It is almost certainly a house .

Someone on www.GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com has found the Death of a William Watson aged 42 in Swansea Dec q 1954 which fits in with the birth in Dec q 1912.It is on Ancestry and www.freebmd.org.uk
I'm not sure how I missed that one!!

I hope that Ernest can get the certificate and that it will be the right man and also answer some questions.

Brinley J Watson , Williams probable brother, died 10 years later at the same age. I haven't managed to positively work out marriages and deaths of others in the family so don't know what happened to them.


I have now looked on British Newspapers hoping for a family announcement or a mention of his death. If anyone can access any Glamorgan newspapers perhaps they could have search.From September 1954 and into 1955 I would think
Sue

[ernest]

hi everyone,still no luck,not even on the forces war records,which i have stopped paying for know,it gets annoying for me to keep seeing watsons that dont much,anything new here

[ivor43]

Hi All.
Right, some of what i am going to write is probably known to you.But in order to make sense of this i will have to explain the lot.
First, i do not use Ancestry, too expensive, i use Family Search which is a Free search provided by the Mormon Church.
O.K. William C Watson,born 1912, as AP1 Says. his mothers Maiden Name is shown as England. Brindley J Watson, born 1923, also has mothers Maiden name of England. so very probable Brothers. Death of William C is recorded as Sept Q 1954 as stated. age 42.
Brinley J Death recorded Sept Q 1964 age 42.

Right Marriages. There is a record for William C of a Marriage to a Doris M Williams in the Jun Q of 1934.Now this ties in quite nicely with your record,susanjane, of the passenger record from Gib in May 34 with return in July 34.Possibly returned for his Wedding.
There is also a Marriage record for a Brinley Watson in the Sept q 1948. when he Married a Ursula J M Gatz.
If you are having difficulty obtaining Certificates then Both Family Search and FreeBMD both record the Volume,Page and Line for the record. i have copied them so if you would like i can provide them save you searching.

ivor