Muslim for crusaders

[nick sigallias]

I couldnt give a monkeys if they belived in or prayed to the big giant head!! its irrelevant,, what im saying is the our country has been over run by ok lets use the word aliens.. these people subvert and undermine our way of life, they do it by ghettoisin certain areas of or cities, making the no go areas for the native people. They swamp ort high streets with organised teams of beggers,. the take over en mass jobs such as taxi driver then clog the streets three times a day with iilegaly parked cabs because they are praying..they groom and pray on young girls plying them with drink and drugs, they do this because they are forbidden to mix with girls of there own cuture, I have had dealings with them (im a builder) and in those dealings i have never ever known them to string 3 truthfull sentences together, If you go to meet mr khan, you walk in hello mr khan he says no hes not mr khan hes his cousin, he doesnt own the house, hes the one whos going to pay though. but he doesnt know his cousins name ect ect ect in the end I walk off. if i think that they are asian on the phone i tell them straight that i wont work for them and its because i dont trust them to tell me the truth,its better than being knocked..and i know 100s of builders in cardiff who do the same, you cant trust these people...Its a cultural thing, they are told in the mosque to go out and make as many babies as they can because britain will pay , and that means pay for the islamicaion of the country... there are schools by me with not one white child in it. I was born and bred in the docks in cardiff. I know about multiculturism,, my grandad was from Andros in the agiean sea.. this is a whole new ball game now , and someone has to do something.I feel sorry for people who think that they have to flee the country when they retire because those at westminster have spoilt it foreve
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[steve carey]

Some decent points in all comments, Lets see what we say in 5 yrs time, I think a lot of the points raised will be stronger and by most of the country in a few yrs, The corner shops that sell booze in every town and city in this country is none british, they dont care who they sell to or age they are contributing to are self destruction, Take all licenses of corner shops,put pub opening times back to what they used to be (dont have to pay staff all day) no yobs walking the streets with carrier bags of ale causing anti social problems, now thats a start. Steve scouse carey. ynwa

[Gwyn Nicholas]

The radicals of any group will do what they have to do to get a response. That is the nature of what they do whether they are Islamist extremists burning a poppy or a Union flag or a pop stars doped - up anarchist stepson swinging off the Cenotaph. It will get a reaction from right minded law abiding citizens every time which is the whole point of the exercise. It causes disruption, property damage and on occasion injuries to the Police who in my mind, do a very good job maintaining the balance of the protesters rights to protest and criminal activity.

The right to protest, unfortunately comes with the Democracy we as a nation support and indeed"encourage" other non-democratic nations to take up. If we say that Democracy is good thing then we must accept all that comes with it, which means that we have to put up with thoughts, ideas, beliefs etc that we dont necessarily subscribe to. To supress any radical group from making their protest, would actually play into their hands and give them far more credibility than they can ever achieve by open protest by having to go "underground".

In my opinion, these radicals are not a threat to the future of this country. Yes they are dangerous, yes they are capable of inflicting serious damage to people and property but so is any other group who has it it mind to do so. Baader-Mienhoff, ETA and own Terrorists groups are perfect historical examples that spring to mind.

It is the Demographic balance of this country that is a problem for the future of this country as we know it. Since the 1950's the average family size has been dropping in Britain and continues to do so amongst "indigenous" British families. Financial restraints, career women having children later and lower fertility rate (suggested by the medical council as possibly linked to Alcohol use) are reasons given for this occuring. It follows therfore that other ethnic groups who continue to have larger families will over time (and we are talking a long time) be in a majority. That is the way this and other European countries are evolving at this time.

If this country is to change from being a Christian majority to one of another religion, it will take many years and it will evolve naturally to reach that state. Afterall, we were Pagans in this land of ours before Christianity was forced upon us. Terrorists and Radical extremists cannot speed up nature and evolution.

[Dai 55]

Civil War this is were it will all end up Gwyn,i have never felt the opinion of British people start to open there opinions now than ever before,enough is enough and we should all stand together,were will we be in 20 years time ??

Dai 55

[nick sigallias]

The country has changed .. its unrecognisible from the land that 1939-45 vets spent years away to protect.. how do you think they feel.. the problem is integration or lack of it, and mass immigration. When my granfather came to this country he integrated, these "newcomers" dont have to.. they are relying on us to change our ways ... no prayers at council meetings, no prayers in scouts or guides, no xmas plays. no nativity, cant say black sheep.. cant do this cant do that. ect ect and why?? if there is as blairs lie factory told us only 2% of the countries population non british born (which is the biggest lie ever told just look out of the window) then where is the need for the british to change anything. They(muslims) wouldnt change the way they worship if we all decamped to the middle east to live. Everything is dodgy with these people , illegal immigrants, marridge scams, benifit scams, selling fake booze in the corner shops, they have brought nothing but **** to this country , and the same goes for eastern europeans, you cant open a newspaper without finding out that someones done something and hes already got a record for rape or murder. albainians dont come here to work for the post office.. they are here to get away from there own police and make a new criminal start in life. Ill leave you with this ,, how many kurds ,alfghans, pakistanis,or whatever emmigrate to the Russia. ??? not many, thanks to a strong man in charge. thats what we need .

[Gwyn Nicholas]

I'm not quite sure where we are in this discussion now. Are we talking about Islamist extremists who are trying to wind up the the Muslims in this country for Jihad and turning this country into a Muslim state, or the immigration problem we are beset with. Although there are links, they are seperate issues with different ramifications.

In 20 years time or even 50 years time I dont see us being very much different to where we are now provided that immigration is not relaxed any further. If one ethnic group family has 4 children and they each have 4 that is still only 20 over two generations. That compared to the indigenous family who currently will produce 6 over the same period. Although there is a noticable difference in number, the indigenous population is still in the majority and when multiplied by that ratio, the overall figure will be is closer to parity. Therefore, in the short term the only way any group/religion could be dominant in this country is to convert us all to their way of thinking/beliefs. In the long term the country will evolve as it has over hundreds of years from Paganism to Christianity in all it's forms.

[bennyball2]

Some decent posts here, especially Glynn love your posts; but lets look at the past before we look at the present? wasn't it the british that colonised most countries? India, South Africa, Australia, Canada, America, falklands, and loads of others in the commonwealth? so the question I have to ask is whilst we used all these countries to better the united kingdom, with their resources and of course slavery! how can we as a country moan about the expectance of the people of these countries relying on us for safe refuge. look back at the Kenya episode when we took the asian people in, not sure but maybe a few of their descendants may have served in our battalion? what about the people who came from the Caribbean who took the low payed jobs? bus drivers, conductors, any menial tasks that many carried out. Shall we look at why we as a nation fought the 2nd world war, wasn't it that a germanic nation wanted world domination and any one that stood in their way wold be crushed? what came out of this the Nazi Party, Himmler, and his cronies who wanted to destroy anything that wasn't of the arian race. How many brave people from the commonwealth gave their lives for the freedom we have today. Radical people from all races should be stopped, if you don't think its a religious thing then why do they use the cross of the christian church i.e. BNP EDL, to further their cause?? So my opinion is that as we all served as soldiers in he majesties forces fighting for the rights of of our great nation, shouldn't we put any feelings aside and protect all that live in our great island.

So my question is? we are a multi racial society that have lived in peace for years and years; whats changed

[ap1]

Exactly Carl. What do the supporters of the BNP want? A purely white anglo-saxon population?, how does that square with celts? Where do you draw your lines? Who's in and who's out? Watching the Ch4 programme "Muslims for Crusaders" it was interesting when the leader of the EDL tried to introduce an asian member at the meeting.

[dutchman]

whilst agreeing a multi cultural society can be a good thing it is not only the radicals who are causing trouble, breeding contempt and in a lot of cases hate amongst us brits . where i work at the moment there are lay offs and one guy (among many i might add) from yemen was saying quite openly "i will not get laid off they know i will make it a racial issue and they are scared" . you know something he is damn right as well , this country has become so scared to be called a racist or prejudice it will not even do the right thing for fear of being vilified by some mullah or politically correct a** hole jumping on the band wagon . well i for one am not scared and i say sod them if they think they can hold us to ransom just becuase they have a suntan or eat borscht for breakfast then they can f*** off back to where they come from or toe the line like we do ((decent folk do anyway) . we would never get away with it in their countries and quite right so why the hell do i pay taxes all my life like the rest of you so the government can look after some babushka in russia and her children who have never set foot in this country just because her husband works here , stuff that for a game of soldiers not for me i'm afraid and i dont give two hoots who i offend i think ive earned the right to speak my mind in a democratic country in which i was born raised worked raised children and payed taxes . by the same token if the immigrants who come to this country work pay taxes and dont take the p*** i have no quarrels its the limpets carbuncles and scroungers radicals and any other idiot thats wants to change my culture just because our laws give them licence to do so .
i have no doubt some of you will have a go at me for this all i can say is feel free you have earned the right but believe me if you are going to have a go because you thing it is the " done thing " or because this is what you think is the new crusade to make you feel good inside that you are defending the defenceless i wont even waste my time answering you .

[Dai 55]

Al just reading your post and the EDL and BNP have a few Asian/Black members,