rugby programmes

**dutchman** · 31-07-2010, 09:05

apologies richard on doing a bit more research and recieving 3 more programmes form the same source , it seems that the match was actually played in padang singapore and not malaya as i first thought , the 3 i have just bought were singapore and it clearly states padang singapore on one featuring the 1st fijian regiment 12th feb 1955 and one other is combined services malaya and singapore v 1st fijian regt played at jalan besar 1st december 1954 .i am trying to find out where this is as we speak, but maybe it being combined swrvices there maybe some rwf included.

**jungle1810** · 31-07-2010, 15:41

Hello Dutch,
The Jalan Besar stadium is in Singapore (Kallang Area) It was built in 1932 and seats 6,000 people.It is the home of the Singapore football club.The original stadium was closed and rebuilt in 1999.The Jalan Besar sports complex is in an area enclosed on the western side by TYRWHITT ROAD,the north end has a boundary with HORNE ROAD, The eastern boundary is by GEORGES AVENUE, the south side is in KITCHENER ROAD. It is quite conceivable that the game played in December 1954 (Combined Services team Malaya & Singapore)did contain some RWF men, and even the band of 2/RWF.Thats all for now folks.
Regards RBD

**jungle1810** · 01-08-2010, 16:03

Hello Dutch,
I have doubts about the 2nd RWF band playing in Singapore in early January 1954,the 2nd were in Germany then. As for the Welsh Regiment band I have positively no idea of where the Welsh or their band were in January 1954
Regards Don

Paul Hinge · 02-08-2010, 13:50

Gentlemen,
I have received the followin from a Band Member who should the Band have been there would have been beating the retreat!

I remember beating retreat at Seremban, but it was'nt on that date.
We never sailed for Malaya till august 54.
Regards Dave Lewis.

The plot thickens even more!!!

Hingey

**dutchman** · 02-08-2010, 15:44

yes very strange but as you can see by the pics it clearly states "the band and drums of the 2nd bn. the royal welch fusiliers will beat retreat after the match " i cannot see it being a mistake but who knows.
just in case people cant make it out the front say's.
negri sembilan
versus
perak
station padang
saturday, 22nd jan. 1954

**jungle1810** · 02-08-2010, 16:08

Hello Dutch,
In fairnes to me Hingey and your good self the programme did not state when the 2/RWF band would beat retreat.? I have a photo of the 2nd Battalion W.O's and Sjts mess taken in Ogbourne Saint George in July 1954, after the Queen presented new colours to the 1st, 2nd and 3rd battalions RWF, and the members of the band of the second are on this photo so the time shown has to be a mistake but it is not your fault.As I mentioned in an earlier e mail the plot thickens
regards Don

**dutchman** · 02-08-2010, 20:43

sorry richard it clearly states at the bottom of the programme they will beat the retreat after the game , maybe they were a tribute band (tongue in cheek)

**Dai 55** · 03-08-2010, 07:07

Hi Jungle,
how do you know yours is not a mistake.

Dai 55

Paul Hinge · 03-08-2010, 09:55

Dai

Because he's absolutely correct as Dave Lewis who was serving with 2nd Battalion Band at the time confirms this!!!

Hingey

**Dai 55** · 03-08-2010, 12:19

Hingey,
sorry mate sticking with the Dutchman on this one,dont see how a progrmme can be so wrong,when i am proven wrong,not word of mouth documented evidence,i will buy you a beer next time i see you,

Good luck
Dai 55