Bloody Sunday

**Rog Ball 01** · 16-06-2010, 20:04

What has been said is correct regarding mR Mc and Mr Adams. I can remember the troops going into the City on Moterman, and hearing later in the day the famous shouts "No surrender" from the Creggan as the last of the terrorists leave via the back door into the Republic. Of the three of the Bn who were killed on the first tour, 2 were killed in the City, when companies were deployed to assist with changeovers of the 4 months Bn's.

Mr McG said, when interviewed yesterday, he was on a march and was not carrying a weapon, yet the inquiry said that he was!!!!!

Tell me, what has happened to the suspects of the Omagh bombings. Has there been a call for a full enquiry and the prosecution of peeps indirectly involved in the incident.

It is time that such things as Bloody Sunday, the Omagh Bombings and alike should be closed. There is one incident that we the servicemen have put aside and that is Warrenpoint - certain people know who did the killings, but dont have the (my name with an s at end) to come out and say so.

Lets not forget but lets progress.

**richjones16** · 16-06-2010, 22:20

why is'nt McGuinness on Trail...He started it...and then as per the norm said nothing...The murdering Scumbag..I hope non of the Para's Involved have to face Prosecution..

**nasher546** · 17-06-2010, 13:25

People talk of closure. What's the point. This is a Country steeped in undivided loyalties, and it has been going on for over three hundred years. Even recently there has been further terrorist activity in the province.

Bloody Sunday was a chapter in Irish hsitory. A chapter in a protracted book which I believe may not even have an end.

**Gwyn Nicholas** · 17-06-2010, 17:20

To clarify my post, when I speak of closure I refer only to to the grieving process which affects everyone who loses sombody in circumstances other than natural causes. For example the parents of the children who have still not been found following the horrendous Moors murders. They still want to know where their children are so that they can bury them decently. That is the closure to which I refered. I agree with Paul in that the book on NI, may not yet be finished, but this is one chapter perhaps that has reached its conclusion.

Davies GW · 17-06-2010, 21:01

I was 3 years old when the events of bloody Sunday took place. I never served in Ireland as a soldier but I did work (as a civilian) in Northern Ireland after the first cease fire. I was there when that cease fire broke.The company I worked for employed both catholic and protestants. What I am trying to do is give you the context that I view Op Banner with. Those of you who have served there, dodged the bricks, bottles and bullets can make your choice and choose to disregard me from this point in if you want.

After 38 years, the families of those who died got what they wanted. Their loved ones where exonerated. At least two of those who walked out of the enquiry said that this was the end for them. I'm not sure that all of them will have the same attitude. I suspect that some of those families, the leadership of Sinn Fein and even some of the IRA are aware of the stunning victory they won. I also suspect that those who have any sense will not be rushing forward to open other enquiries. It takes two sides to fight a war and atrocity can be applied to both sides. The Protestant majority are very uneasy about the outcome. Some of the hotheads will be asking questions about other events and asking "Where are our enquiries about atrocities committed by the IRA?" If Sinn Fein make too much capital out of this then they may be facing questions that they don't want to answer.

The British public may also decide that have a right to a couple of enquiries. For example, if the Guildford four and Birmingham six were innocent, isn't it time that the real perpatrators came forward? If we extend immunity to them like we did to the Para's, where's the harm. What about the Warren Point bombing? Surely the families of the Para's who died there are entitled to some form of enquiry? My point is simple, we go on chewing over old and bitter bones for the next 100 years, long after those who know are dead and gone and all we will do is keep the divided communities of Ireland divided. If we accept the enquiry at face value and let it lie, then maybe in 50 or 60 years this conflict will be history. Just like Waterloo, Agincourt, Minden and countless other wars. History makes us what we are, it's interesting but it's not politics. Politics causes wars, history records them. History can keep the politics hot or it can explain our folly to future generations.