bird in welsh

**steve bird** · 09-03-2010, 12:03

hello everone, would any of our welsh speaking members tell/ show me how to spell bird in welsh please and thank you.

**Gwyn Nicholas** · 09-03-2010, 14:16

Aderyn - apparently it is a modern Welsh name. Hope that helps Steffan (Welsh for Stephen)

My name - Gwyn means, Fair - which I was - White, which is what I am now - Blessed, maybe with looks but not in the trouser department!

Dilwyn you get the same as me but with an added - Genuine! (Dilys) how unfair is that!

tom33 · 09-03-2010, 18:43

sorry nic.but when i went to school gwyn was white..and bird was deryn..right about dilwyn though.waiting quitetly for your response...

**Gwyn Nicholas** · 09-03-2010, 20:46

Not being a Welsh speaker Tom I really cannot argue the point. You are of course right that Gwyn means White (as I indicated) however having done a little research* I noted some additions (I presume area differences) Fair, Blessed and also Shining and Holy.

My research only showed Aderyn for Bird which differs slightly from Deryn that you say you learnt in school. Whilst in the Battalion I did note on a few occasions when listening to a South Walian and a North Walian in conversation (Den 27 and the late Eifion Jones 80) that some words did differ slightly so I suppose it is possible that they are both correct according to dialect. Perhaps a South Wales Welsh speaker could comment. I would be interested to know.

*(Scource- Department of Welsh - University of Wales, Lampeter)

**5haron** · 09-03-2010, 22:00

I always use Deryn for small birds and Ader (yn) for a larger bird or collective birds.

Paul Hinge · 09-03-2010, 22:49

As Sharron states,that's exactly what we would use here in our conversations in the language of the poets here in Aberystwyth.

Cofion cynnes

Hingey

**steve bird** · 10-03-2010, 01:28

many thank s to you all,gwyn ,tom,sharon, and mr hinge my son and his wife have just changed thier surname to aderyn and named thier new daughter gwen,my three other younger grandchildern are all learning to speak welsh in school ,so now i have to enrole so i can keep up with them. again thank you.

**Thom15** · 10-03-2010, 07:19

My name - Gwyn means, Fair - which I was - White, which is what I am now - Blessed, maybe with looks but not in the trouser department!

Dilwyn you get the same as me but with an added - Genuine! (Dilys) how unfair is that!

Hmmm!!! Genuine, Fair.... sounds like me. I had a girlfriend called Dilys (Lewis), she was a cracker. I wonder whatever happened to her.

**Gwyn Nicholas** · 10-03-2010, 08:47

She had a lucky escape Dilwyn Bach!

As I mentioned earlier, Aderyn is supposed to be a "modern" Welsh word. Looking a little deeper, I found that Deryn is actually the Celtic name meaning Bird.