Micheal Jackson dead at 50

**Rog Ball 01** · 28-06-2009, 21:36

Originally Posted by Gwyn Nicholas

Neverland (just around the corner from me most of the time Rog)

Thanks Gwyn

griff029 · 09-07-2009, 21:34

I have been off the forum for a while and it would appear that my post has been edited. I do apologise if I have upset the sensibilities of some. My comments about the music were clearly my personal opinion. As is the opinion of 5s regarding the music and worth of Buddy Holly. 38, I haven't had the pleasure of your response to my post as it seems to have disappeared. Rest assured that it wouldn't have offended me in the slightest. I did notice that it had more 'thanks' things than mine so it was obviously popular and I may have inadvertently stumbled across the MJ fan club thread.
5s, I do not live in a flat. I have a TV that allows me to view some excellent music on Jools and the great offerings on BBC4 which has good music generally and is usually MJ free (mercifully). I also like to watch live music. Iron Maiden, Rush, Opeth, Nightwish, Ralph McTell, GooGoo Dolls, Arena. I enjoy going to see live music with my wife. I do not moan at the kids next door playing football. I wish they would make less noise and I certainly wish they would pollute the air with revolting barbeque stench.
It is me in fact who is told to turn the music down as my wife doesn't think that the neighbours should be subjected to Led Zeppelin, Motorhead, Metallica, Floyd, Genesis (just the early stuff as I am sure you agree that they went downhill after Gabriel and Hackett left), Wagner, Beethoven, Simon and Garfunkel, Dream Theatre, Elbow, Razorlight et al.
My issue was never really with MJ but, as I said earlier, with the press who whip this sort of thing up into a 'we are all in mourning' frenzy.

wasshael

**Gwyn Nicholas** · 10-07-2009, 08:14

Griff, the post from 38 has not been edited out, scroll to the bottom of the post- see Smiley-that is the response accurate and hilarious I thought. Wonder if you might answer my question in my last post. (or perhaps it was edited out) How do you measure greatness in music if you dismiss the "official" listings? Your post gives a who's who's in music and your preferred taste/s, and I wonder where you get the time to listen to the Legend that is Buddy Holly. By the way, when you are teaching History, do you follow the curriculum or just teach the bits that You believe to be factual or the most exciting? LOL . Rock on.

griff029 · 10-07-2009, 08:51

Thanks Gwyn,

I did wonder whether that was it. The question about greatnes I took to be rhetorical. I certainly don't think we can take sales as an obvious indicator or we would then have to regard Big Brother or Coronation St as great TV which they aren't. It is an opinion thing I guess.
As far as teaching. We do have a curriculum to follow but as I wrote our last scheme of work, a lot of what I do is what I fancy. I do constantly remind the students that historians don't just read history, they rewrite it.

I will return later. This is fun.

wasshael

fives · 10-07-2009, 08:54

Griff,
Please dont take my comments to heart,was having a bit of fun,you know me always been one for a laugh and joke,and there was always going to be a bit of a challenge on this topic,but lighthearted hopefully,
Myself and wife went to see take that in Cardiff recently and they were fantastic,says it all about my music choice.
Anyway take care and best of luck.

Dai Fives

**DP43** · 10-07-2009, 10:44

Personally I was more gutted at the passing of Frarah Fawcett Majors on the same day and suspect she was responsible for more 6 inchers in her life time than MJ. IMHO.

griff029 · 10-07-2009, 18:43

5s, I don't take anything to heart mate. Funny you should mention Take That. My wife likes them and to be honest, they have some great songs, can certainly hold a tune and they seem genuinely nice blokes.
I did think it a little sad about FFM. Totally overlooked in the wake of the MJ thing.
Got a phone call at work today from the office. Turns out that a lad I used to teach joined the army a year or two ago. His younger brother who I also have taught and is still at school has his heart set on professional rugby league or the army. It seems his parents came for him today as his older brother has just been killed in Afghanistan. Now that has really saddened me. People seem to get really upset and hysterical over someone they don't even know in hollywood dying (or Lady Diana) and I just wonder how they even begin to come to terms with the loss of someone that is close. I get a bit misty eyed when I watch "Goodbye Mr Chips" and today I feel a bit like he did when the Great War took so many of his ex pupils. Feel a bit odd actually.

wasshael