I'm not one to winge but!

daibeer · 18-08-2006, 12:26

What the hell is going on. I,m not one to winge but after the rape of the regiment not so long ago, we now have a mascot? Wheres the Regimental Goat we used to have. Oh, I forgot, we are now the 2nd Bn The Royal Regiment of Wales. Am I kidding, I dont think so. Our colours are regimental colours are green and white, ok, we now have a mascot (without the traditional headplate presented to the 1stBn RWF by the people of Lichfield in 1904 as a token of their esteem and services in the South African War. If you go on the website of the Regimental Band of the Royal Welsh and go to the Regimental Mascot (Goat) tab, it shows a very nice picture of a Goat Major wearing full 1 RRW scarlet dress. The Regimental Mascot of the Regimental Band of the Royal Welsh is called Shenkin and is the official mascot of the Royal Welsh. Do'nt believe me, go to their website at www.royalwelshband.com/goat/goat.shtml So, we dont have our colours, we dont have our badge and we do,nt have a goat. I reckon the next move will be green and white hackles. All this from an amalgamated regiment formed a couple of decades ago. I,m not one to winge, but we've been sold down the swanee , hook line and sinker

**benney** · 18-08-2006, 16:48

TO RIGHT DAI I WORK IN MAINDY AND IT DONT LOOK GOOD AT ALL

richie264 · 18-08-2006, 18:46

Even the mess dress has been taken over with green waist coats etc, we where stuffed !!!

**rob jones 60** · 18-08-2006, 19:32

Sold down the river is right are fusiliers now privets , whats this with brown berets, are we now part of the gaurds Div.and all these chages on St Davids day, the jocks got to keep there cap badges.

OLD HAND · 18-08-2006, 19:46

What Was Wrexham Doing To The Run Up To The Amalgamation?
I Find That It Was A Waste Of Time Sending Letters Etc From Our Comrade Branch If You Want Our Comrades Ass, In Caernarfon To Do Something Let me Know.

daibeer · 18-08-2006, 20:11

Do us a favour, if you havnt tried the link on my first post, go on it, you will be absolutely livid. The other major gripe i've got is that if this amalgamation was necessary to streamline the units, and make things easier to manage both logistically and administratively, this means less work in MOD/Whitehall. Can anyone tell me how many senior officers were made redundant? Let me guess, nil, zilch, none. Just a couple of more minutes freetime to spend in their mess sipping G and T's. Thanks Caernarfon, I,m sure we can let HQ know ( if we have one) how upset we all are.

**Rog Ball 01** · 18-08-2006, 23:40

As a Royal Welchman since 1962 and will be till they put me 6 foot under, I find that all that has happened to the regiment is not on. The Royal Welch Fusiliers, is a ROYAL and LOYAL regiment to HM. The RRW (24th/41st) only got the title Royal on amalgamation.

Regarding the goat, the RRW are given their goat, where we are presented with the goat by HM.

I agree that the Scottish Bns have kept their cap badges, yet we, being the oldest regiment in Wales have to have a cap badge that is very smilar to that of the RRW and what makes me even more annoyed is that we have to wear the green patch behind the badge.

I truly believe that we have not been sold out by the REgt HQ, but by the senior officers of the regiment, who could have done more than has been achieved, which is in my opinion is very little. The generals at the MOD, sit in their ivor towers looking at what they can do, knowing full well that the regiments that they come from have not been touched.

taffylooneytoon · 19-08-2006, 02:11

I agree, may be we should campaign again to keep the 1 bn rwf Scottish regiments did it why cant the welch fusiliers keep its traditions or are we second class citizens to the m o d , government and the rest of Britain. Val.

Smokeyjoe · 20-08-2006, 17:55

Hello all,
There is no point in protesting now, on the the 22nd February 2005 Brigadier RHT Atkin then Colonel of the Royal Regiment of Wales wrote to Major General CH Elliot CVO CBE then Colonel Commandant, Headquaters The Prince of Wales Division saying amongsts other things that " the RRW approach to FIS has been to do as we are told: merge with RWF to form a new regiment" the comment above is from a copy of Brigadier Atkin's letter which was sent to me by Major General Sir Mike Jackson Chief of the General Staff, it is my opinion that matters have now gone too far, I leave to everyone to decide for themselves why the RRW Colonel of the Regiment wrote the letter.
Kind regards to all.
Joe.

**keithwill38** · 21-08-2006, 10:14

i am afraid the next step will be to disband one of the 2 regiments due to lack of recruitment targets,this will happen in the not to distant future,i thought we had a few generals in our midst but they either decided to go with the flow or just never bothered getting involved,oh well thats my whinge for the year,i was am and always will be a royal welchman and as far as i am concerned the new regiment has nothing to do with the royal welch fusiliers,they may as well of disbanded.