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Re: This is a Disgrace
Discusting this is an offence and these scum need to be brought to court:
Disability Discrimination Act 1995 (back to top)
It is unlawful for employers to discriminate against current or prospective workers who have a disability or who have had a disability in the past.
Harassment is not referred to as a separate issue under disability legislation. However, harassing a disabled person on account of disability will almost always amount to a detriment under the DDA.
its there in black and white why arnt the government department responsible taking action?
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Re: This is a Disgrace
There's alot of this type of issue in the media at the moment but I think Rudyard Kipling sums it all up quite neatly and much better than any of us could. Just goes to show that the same issues were just as prevalent back then as they are now. Only soldiers will ultimately be able to understand other soldiers ...
TOMMY
by Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936)
I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.
I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.
Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.
We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind.
You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!
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Hello All,
When general Dannat visited Brecon recently he was heard to say on the BBC Welsh news, we have a lot to thank the Welsh for as it appears that Wales contribute 8% of soldiers compared to an average of 4% from the rest of the UK.A some what down to earth compliment for all soldiers but at least the fighting men of this country are recognised by former C.I.G.S Staff officers for their qualities and hard ships they are suffering.and last but not least by general Dannat who is still in office and speaking his mind for all the brave men fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan As a point of interest possibly one of Englands finest generals( general Wellington) aka "The iron Duke) once remarked that British troops should never be called upon to fight in this country and he was referring to Afghanistan. Will we ever learn from history.
Regards RBD
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Re: This is a Disgrace
what a disgrace these women need to be sent over there them selfs to see what our lads
have to do or are they part of the other side b****es
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Re: This is a Disgrace
Unfortunately nothing much has changed for decades. I have been in the care field for over twenty five years (soon after leaving the RWF). I first became interested in working with disabled people when volunteering at a local swimming pool with Dai Ross when posted to N. Ireland. Since that time I (and colleagues) have had to defend or fight for the rights of people with various challenges, physical or mental.
I have also worked as a volunteer for the Special Olympics in Canada for over ten years and still we find that there are many people out there that can not stand sharing a sports facility with our challenged athletes.
I could go on and on, however the point being is that there are a great deal of ignorant, selfish and nasty people in this world. Fortunately they are outnumbered by the wonderful, caring people of this planet.
I still hope these women's (not ladies) names make it to the papers so that they can hang their heads in shame.
Thanks for allowing me to blow of some steam
Dilwyn
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Re: This is a Disgrace
Great post by sox, this highlights the total disregard and lack of respect that our brave service people have to endure by mindless bigots who probably don't have the slightest inkling of what our troops go through, I wonder if their attitudes would change if it was one of their children!
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I didnt realy want to comment on it as my feelings are undescribable, but as Sharon and Col Leader have stated Kiplin sums it up realy well. But I still believe that most civil perception of the Forces derives from the lack of leadership from the Government, it all goes back to the covernant as far as im concerned. Soldiers dont want to be branded heros we just strive for the respect we feel we are entitled to.
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