The New Royal Welsh Capbadge/CollarDogs/Buttons

Smokeyjoe · 22-06-2007, 01:28

I am not at all suprised at anything which happens now, I apoligise to any RRW members on the forum but even they must admit that they have got the better deal on the merger or whatever you wish to call it, we were truly sold down the river and history will eventualy tell us the truth as to who is responsible as long as the freedom of information act remains in place.
Regards to all,
A very despondent Joe.

UKSniper · 22-06-2007, 09:10

Originally Posted by Smokeyjoe

I am not at all suprised at anything which happens now, I apoligise to any RRW members on the forum but even they must admit that they have got the better deal on the merger or whatever you wish to call it, we were truly sold down the river and history will eventualy tell us the truth as to who is responsible as long as the freedom of information act remains in place.
Regards to all,
A very despondent Joe.

I have heard the same grumbles from ex RRW members that I have heard from here. Everyone seems to think the other half have profited the most. The 1st have accepted the patch and cap badge. The 2nd have accepted the hackle, flash and bomb. We have all accepted the new belt, beret and buttons.

We still await the confirmation of the colours but as with all mergers it will have items from both Antecedant Regiments.

**meds** · 22-06-2007, 09:28

we have all worn and serverd as "royal welch" as long as that is in our hearts they can't take that away.

**dutchman** · 22-06-2007, 09:34

meds took the words right out of my mouth - jeez that could be a song - as far as i can see it's done and dusted the merger is complete ,cap badges selected etc etc whilst i agree it is a damn shame that a proud and long standing regiment such as the rwf seem to have suffered more there is nothing more that can be done so is there any real reason to go over old ground ,i think not and before the flak starts coming my way i understand why people are upset but what's done is done .in finishing and before i go and get my head down below the parapet just remember you served in a great regiment and noone can take that away from you .

**Paul Davies 701** · 22-06-2007, 10:34

I agree with the dutchman, what's done is done and no amount of protests will change that. No one who has servered or is still serving in both the RWF & RRW agreed with this merger, it's just another way that Tony Blairs government can get closer to becoming the newest State in the USA. However one thing that they cannot take away from ALL ex-RWF is that we served in one of the finest Regiments in the Bristish Army who's history can be traced back to every major battle in the past 300 years. What we've got a duty to do now is educate the lads that are serving now and make sure they never forget that history.

Richards13 · 22-06-2007, 18:13

I am ex-RRW. It is clear very little thought or imagination has gone into that badge. A lost opportunity clearly. To be honest I was expecting something which incorporated both, including the retention of "Welch", and the burning grenade. I think Wales has lost out, not just the RWF. A bit of history could easily have been preserved.

**ap1** · 22-06-2007, 19:22

Thanks to RSM 3rd Bn for the photos and details:

The Collar Dog

This is worn by WO2 and below in No 2 Dress and CSgt and below in No1 Dress. Officers and WO1's will wear a bronzed version which I have not got a picture of but its a bronze bomb with a silver wreath and dragon.

WO2 and above will wear an embroidered version in No1 Dress and Mess Dress.

**ap1** · 22-06-2007, 19:26

Thanks to RSM 3rd Bn for the photos and details:

The Buttons

This bronze one is for Offrs and WO1's. The remainder will wear a gold staybrite version.

**DP43** · 24-06-2007, 01:20

The origional idea behind the cap badge was almost a trade off of you keep the hackle we'll the badge, (a very simplified version of events). Obviously things have evolved and the cap badge is a very contentious issue. The collar dog looks like it could be developed into a cap badge to me.

**jungle1810** · 24-06-2007, 14:41

Hingey,
Major Toby Kenyon is doing a great job trying to salvage recognition for our history on the new colours. My main concern is of course PEKIN we are the only regiment in the British Army to have this Battle Honour. The other **** about antecedent regiments is utter nonsense. I strongly suspect that all true Royal Welchmen only wish to salute colours that bear the Battle Honours we won not what has been handed down through the ages however tenuous the thread
Regards Don