Re: saint venant 1940-------farm boulet
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Originally Posted by
Baconwallah
Good question, Jim! This is the first we have heard of a 1948 exhumation. Would the CWGC know more, I wonder?
John
Hello john,
Indeed it is John it was only today when I re-read the Rodgers Book that I came across it.The records have to exist as they were used as a comparrison against those of M.Faivre.In relation to the CWGC George rodgers records ` were quite unresponsive and refusing even to give me (George Rodgers) a number to contact the Ministry of Defence" It seems,reading between the lines that these are MoD records.Something else of great interest is remembering at this time Tom Rodgers was `inconnu` yet the MoD checked his full record and found although he was an UNKNOWN his temp grave location was written on the records as situated between the War Memorial and the Town Centre (Which it wasnt as it proved) If you have a grave location then how could he have been classed as an unknown?
There is also reference to Dog-Tags the Rodgers got in touch with the German equivalent of the CWGC who were most helpful they suggested the tags may still have been held in the German MoD in Berlin.Enquiries were made with the Germans (again speedy reply) who stated all British records etc had been taken by the British in 1945 and were with...the MoD!
The Rodgers were being passed from pillar to post it seems so he contacted his local MP who managed to speed things along and although the book gives the MoD contact only as `Christopher`it does give an address of Trenchard Lines,Building 43 Upavon,Wiltshire an avenue for Tony to explore further perhaps certainly in regard to those 1948 Records??
Best
Jim
Re: saint venant 1940-------farm boulet
A letter to Tony's own MP might help. The MoD needs a lot of prodding and probably a firecracker up the ****. And keep your fingers crossed that they have not outsourced the archives.
John
Re: saint venant 1940-------farm boulet
Hello again all,
I'm hoping that the last couple of posts (by Jim and John) might signal a breakthrough or at least a decent development. I'll certainly go along with contacting my MP or writing to the MOD. It is always disappointing to realise that whenever the word 'Ministry' is in any title, you can expect any correspondence to be ignored or at least replies to be delayed by an unbelievable length of time. Evidence of this delaying tactic became obvious again when I was told that I would not receive Anthony's Service Records for up to nine to twelve months. It costs £30 for the privilege!
However, moaning does not get us anywhere and I'd just like to say that I will await further instructions as to when to contact the MP and MOD. I never say no to any guidance regarding matters of this kind, so please feel free to point me in the right direction.
Tony
Re: saint venant 1940-------farm boulet
Tony, are you in touch with the family of Tom Rodgers? I think they are the experts on extracting information from the MOD, with or without help of an MP. And if anyone can understand your predicament, they can. Certainly worth considering.
John
Re: saint venant 1940-------farm boulet
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Originally Posted by
Baconwallah
Tony, are you in touch with the family of Tom Rodgers? I think they are the experts on extracting information from the MOD, with or without help of an MP. And if anyone can understand your predicament, they can. Certainly worth considering.
John
John,
Strangely, I'm finding it rather difficult getting in touch with the Rodgers family. A while ago, I thought all I had to do was write to the Northern Echo, who played a part in the publicity of the 'Tom' case, but they wrote back saying that they had no contact details of the family. I have held back from a second attempt because I was contemplating sending an open email asking the readers to help. The trouble with this method is that once you publish your email address, you leave yourself open to all the possibilities of viruses and spam etc.
I'll have another go, all the same.
Tony
Re: saint venant 1940-------farm boulet
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Originally Posted by
teecee1941
John,
Strangely, I'm finding it rather difficult getting in touch with the Rodgers family. A while ago, I thought all I had to do was write to the Northern Echo, who played a part in the publicity of the 'Tom' case, but they wrote back saying that they had no contact details of the family. I have held back from a second attempt because I was contemplating sending an open email asking the readers to help. The trouble with this method is that once you publish your email address, you leave yourself open to all the possibilities of viruses and spam etc.
I'll have another go, all the same.
Tony
Re: saint venant 1940-------farm boulet
Just to say that in the last few minutes I have contacted the Northern Echo with a request to post an appeal for the Rodgers family to get in touch with me or anyone to
provide their contact details.
Tony
Re: saint venant 1940-------farm boulet
Perhaps Jim has a way of contacting them?
Alternatively, have yourself interviewed by the Northern Echo, tell them about your quest and ask the Rodgers family to contact you via the Echo offices, or offer a temporary email address - Mailexpire.com will provide a free email address which expires automatically in three months, or just open a hotmail account, once it has done the job you never look at that inbox again.
John
Re: saint venant 1940-------farm boulet
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Baconwallah
Perhaps Jim has a way of contacting them?
Alternatively, have yourself interviewed by the Northern Echo, tell them about your quest and ask the Rodgers family to contact you via the Echo offices, or offer a temporary email address - Mailexpire.com will provide a free email address which expires automatically in three months, or just open a hotmail account, once it has done the job you never look at that inbox again.
John
Sorry I do not have Georges contact details I have a feeling they too may have set up a `ghost` account!
I do have some much better news regarding `Q` Forms despite the negative reply from the National Archives it does transpire that these `Q` Forms(or at least three full files of them!) still exist according to my author contact they can be found at ;-
WO 311/569 Extracts from Q (Questionnaire) Forms received from repatriated British POWs from Germany 1945 Apr - Sept
WO 311/570 Extracts from Q (Questionnaire) Forms received from repatriated British POWs from Germany 1945 Sept - Dec
WO 311/571 Extracts from Q (Questionnaire) Forms received from repatriated British POWs from Germany 1945 Dec - 1947 Jan
Sure enough they are listed I cut the reference from the National Archive Site Now which one contains `Q80`
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/c...TID=569000&j=1
Best Wishes
Jim
Re: saint venant 1940-------farm boulet
Good news indeed, Jim! And good work!
This calls for a researcher, unless some member of the Forum is a regular visitor to Kew with a healthy appetite for 72 year old mysteries.
John