4189281 Cpl William Christopher Watson - RWF 1930's

hi. could be this guyName: William Watson
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: 1943
Event Place: New York City, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 32
Birthplace: Scotland
Ship Name: Leerdam
Birth Year (Estimated): 1911
Affiliate Publication Title: Passenger and Crew Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, NY, 1897-1957
Affiliate Publication Number: T715
Affiliate Film Number: 6698
GS Film number: 002310503
Digital Folder Number: 007258600
Image Number: 00236



Citing this Record:
"New York, New York Passenger and Crew Lists, 1909, 1925-1957," index and images, <i>FamilySearch</i> (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/2H9S-KCN : accessed 29 Nov 2014), William Watson, 1943; citing Immigration, New York City, New York, United States, NARA microfilm publication T715, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.; FHL microfilm 002310503.

HI.
Al.
These 2 records are for different persons. if you look at the set of serial numbers you will see they are different. and Scottish is used quite frequently as opposed to British.

Thats the guy I showed the transcript of in post #136. A Marine Engineer. Not our guy, not after a career in the infantry. Additionally place of birth? Arbroath.

hi.

this is a link too family search and you can see my search parameters.the first 2 entries. were on different ships. but the first is the one i posted earlier.

https://familysearch.org/search/reco...r%3A1943-1943~


ivor

Again, he's Scottish and serving at sea for 9 years! Our man is Welsh and has spent most of his working life in the infantry. Could he really be 1st Engineer in a few short months?

Also Marriages, assuming he did get married. Neath may not be relevant other than the birth registration. We know he was living in Swansea in 1938.

http://rwf-forum.co.uk/vBulletin/att...tid=3654&stc=1

Al.
the first 2 entries re weddings.

https://familysearch.org/search/reco...r%3A1943-1943~

ivor

The marriage between William senior and Margaret Williams seemed to be in Jun q 1910

William Watsons siblings appear to be
Cyril b Sep q 1914-died before he was 1
Launcelot R Sep q 1916 both Neath

And just possibly Rosina M born Sep q 1910

A Lancelot R marries in Leeds in 1937 to Mary Stead. There is one child born the following year in Leeds.
Gwyneth- a good Welsh name. There are others to Watson and Stead in Yorkshire

1911 census brings this info. living in 6 Wern St Aberavon--as per WW's Birth Cert

William Watson 35 carpenter b N Glamorgan
Margaret 34 married 15 years 5 children all living .Born Briton Ferry
Mary Elizabeth 12 scholar born Neath
Bertie 14 engine cleaner ditto
Diana 8
Trevor 6
Rosina 4--all these born Morriston Glamorgan


I couldn't find the family in 1901 with elder 2 children.
Then I saw why.....
Looking at Freebmd. The older 2 don't turn up as Watson but possibly do as Williams born Neath.

I haven't looked for the 3 younger ones yet

I had another look at passengers lists

I remembered a Policeman-William Watson- in and out of Hong Kong-- born 1911 with wife Doris . Sadly she is Doris Jane not M.[as per the Williams marriage in 1934]

Well I found them again going out sometime after WW2-seemed perfect for him having been there in 1930's.

But then I found them returning from HK in Nov 1945. Had they been interned by the Japanese? Or gone out for interviews?

They travelled together but gave a Scottish address for him and a Cardiff one for her. She was a Nursing Sister.

So vaguely possible except that her 2nd name is wrong.

All for now

Sue

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Originally Posted by ap1

Thanks Sue, am I right in saying there is not definite link between the 1934 marriage and our man?

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Yes there is nothing conclusive. Does the RWF entry give any next of kin? and/or an address ?

Also his height? I see that the 1st Engineer was 5ft 8ins [that Ivor found]

All the children in 1911 seem to be Williams not Watson --by checking on Births.
Sue

Hi All.
Sorry for my last,deleted post, right info wrong conclusion.(possibly age related Hmmmm)
Right.
as you correctly identified W Watson (post 139) 1st Engineer on the Fort Albany. but my 2nd W Watson (post 141) was a passenger on the Leerdam which was a passenger liner of the Holland America line. which both Pre and Post War sailed between Rotterdam and New York calling at Southampton. I do not know about wartime voyages yet, but i imagine she was operating as a troop ship, between US and UK.

ivor

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Originally Posted by susanjane

Yes there is nothing conclusive. Does the RWF entry give any next of kin? and/or an address ?

Also his height? I see that the 1st Engineer was 5ft 8ins [that Ivor found]

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No NOK or address Sue. Regarding the height. I think he's quite tall, looking at the photos, certainly in excess off 5'8.