RWF WW2 POW Grandfather research

[ladyC]

Yes for very definite the Mair Jonstone/Jones is my Nain(grandmother)
I couldnt find death dates for Lydia so thanks!
I didnt even bother looking into the Helen M Yates as I was unsure about the Surrey part.

My mother was sure one wife died of a tropical disease (could possibly be in India) so could be either Helen or Lydia.

Thank you very much for the huge amount of help!

Kind regards,
C R Rowley

[ivor43]

hi.

Lydias death was registered Newport so it must have been Helen who went to India.and probably died there.



ivor

[ladyC]

Ah I see now!
Thank you. I will look further

Kind Regards

C Rowley

[ap1]

Ivor, I'm well aware the RWF were at Kohima..lol….remember I did the blow by blow account of their action in 2014! My point was it's unlikley that Chantelles grandfather was there in 1944, as he was getting married in Newport, a few months later and how would that fit with being a POW!

I'm not 100% sure how he became a POW, as he was in the UK in 1944…Did he get captured previously and escape? Or was he captured later, possibly with the QRR? or am I missing something.

hi AP

RWF at Kohima..

e Royal Welch Fusiliers distinguished itself in many campaigns; of note are Minden in 1759, Yorktown in America, Albuhera in the Peninsula, the saving of the Colours at Alma in the Crimea, the Relief of Lucknow during the Mutiny in India, the unique honour gained after the Boxer rebellion in Peking and their heroic stand in 1944 at Kohima on the borders of India.


The Queens colour of the 1st Btn of the QRR carries the Honour ''Kohima''


ivor

[ap1]

Have you tried FindMyPast, i'm sure they have the death registers of family members who died abroad with the Forces/Civil Service

Yes for very definite the Mair Jonstone/Jones is my Nain(grandmother)
I couldnt find death dates for Lydia so thanks!
I didnt even bother looking into the Helen M Yates as I was unsure about the Surrey part.

My mother was sure one wife died of a tropical disease (could possibly be in India) so could be either Helen or Lydia.

Thank you very much for the huge amount of help!

Kind regards,
C R Rowley

[ivor43]

Hi ap1.

sorry senior moment. that hadn't occurred to me. but he could not have been married again in 45 if he was a PoW. Odd and i have come up with something else which is odd which i will post later.


ivor.

[ivor43]

Hi again.

First i can find no family connection to Surrey. it would seem that the main family grouping was around Bridgewater area. But The QRR Depot was Kingston - on - Thames, which is in the NE Surrey Registration District, where he was married to Helen.
As Al points out, he could not have been in India in 1944/45.From the dates of his weddings. this is another puzzle.



ivor

[ivor43]

Hi.

As i said in a previous post, i would try and go back to Josephs Parents. Well, Problem. Josephs Birth is Registered Under his Mothers Name Only.No Father.


Joseph R Keirl
England and Wales Birth Registration Index
Name Joseph R Keirl
Event Type Birth Registration
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1916
Registration District Pontypridd
County Glamorganshire
Event Place Pontypridd, Glamorganshire, Wales
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3) Stanfield


But as can be seen he is registered as Keirl. But also under the name Stanfield is.



Stanfield
mentioned in the record of Malras L Keirl
Name Stanfield
Gender Female
Child Malras L Keirl
Name Malras L Keirl
Event Type Birth Registration
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1918
Registration District Pontypridd
County Glamorganshire
Event Place Pontypridd, Glamorganshire, Wales
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3) Stanfield..

and also from Sept Qtr 1914.

Keirl Beryl M Stanfield Newport M. 11a 518


But No Fathers Name.
Trying to find the Mothers Name. there are i think 2 possibilities.
1) Natella Constance born June Qtr 1889
2) Florence Lilian Born Mar qtr 1892.

There is a record of a Frederick Keirl marrying in1891. but the possible names with that entry are 1) Ruth Watkins, or 2)Annie Farrance. there is No Record of a Keirl/Stanfield Marriage. So i am now Very Puzzled.

I do not know if this info is any use, i hope so, but on what i have this is as far as i can go.


ivor

[ladyC]

Oh gosh seems I had a senior moment on that one too! ha
Seems pretty weird, my mother only knows of two wives before her mother so things aren't certain from our side.
Yes Ive come across the name Stanfeild although no other names and no father.
I know Joseph had a sister but never knew until yesterday that it was Malras.
I haven't had a chance to further research today although I'll ask around family members to see if any of these names ring a bell.
Thanks a lot! I'll try rinse some more info out of my mother tomorrow noon and piece things together.

Thank you all for the help very appreciated

Kind Regards
C R Rowley

[ivor43]

morning all.
Chantelle.
Do you have any knowledge of the other Stanfield Daughter From Newport.from the Sept Qtr of 1914.

Beryl M Keirl.

she would have been a year or so older than Joseph.


ivor