uncle david williams ww2

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Date/place of birth for David?

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Do you know what his mothers maiden name was Gary. ? There is a few options on Ancestry.

[gary57]

Elizabeth davies was morris was her mother, cheer for this .I beleave he had 2 sisters and 2 brothers my nains name was also Elizabeth she was the oldest and her sister was the youngest by fifteen years .

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Got him on the 1911 census, aged 2..Hopefully… Born 1909. His father is a Coal Miner Hewer.

[gary57]

Hi again seasons greetings to all .is there any record of another uncle Robert martin ( bob) born1909 in the records Iv been told he was in the army ww2 not sure what he was in .kind regards Gary

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3 shown on the Tyler list:

4179198 Robert Martin
4180490 Robert Edward Martin
4201056 Robert Henry

If I remember Gary, I will try and check on Tues. Any address or name of wife/mother/address? Full DOB?

[gary57]

Margaret Elizabeth martin was jones his mother's name they lived at salsbury st flint 1911 census born 1909 .he moved to Preston but was from flint .

[gary57]

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60 Anti-Tank Regiment is an area for further work on my part.

Fantastic picture! Highlights the prevailance of 22 SD, a coloured and ordinary FS caps. If you dig up any more images I'd be very interested to hear, also if you could email me with your details through jonathanhware.com as I have a few specific qs on the image/magazine details (for potential inclusion).

They were converted from 5 RWF (formerly of 158 Brigade) in 1938 but retained the Flash and Goat. They left 53 Div on 13 October to move to Aldershot where they were duly restructured to 101 LAA & AT Regt, joining 1 Armoured Division.

Now here is where it gets (for me) rather interesting and exciting, I've done extensive work on them (some appears Jocks, Dragons and Sospans in an Appendices.)

You'd need to tie down his exact role (whether he was A Echelon or not) and with service records you'll find he was not evacuated at Dunkirk, either at Brest with much of the Motor Transport OR from St Valery, just before 51st Highland capitulated, or potentially as a small cadre with Major Roger Charlton (OC 239 Battery who assumed command of Regt and facilitated St Valery evac) who escaped on the steamer Princess Maud further down the coast.

In total 7 Officers and 303 men escaped back to Britain, far more than claimed by Kemp & Graves in Red Dragon. The full Regimental story is arguably the most bonkers Welsh related action in 1940.

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Unable to find your man Gary. Of the three, one of interest below.

The other two, 4180490 - Mother Sarah, so discounted him. Also 4201056, a post 1940 enlistment, so no personal details logged in the registers, you would have to apply for his papers to box him off.

Did spot this one though, from Flint, possibly extended family?:

4179198 Robert Martin born about 1898. He enlists in 1919, his father "Robert" living at 6 Princess St, Flint. Discharged in 1923, by then a L/Sgt with 1RWF.