What are the 'No of Part II Order or other Authority' numbers? are they decipherable?

[Anniek]

I have started a different post as whilst it relates to my research it is a general enquiry rather than specific to my records.

on the far left of all the forms we have been sent in records is a column titled 'No of Part II Order or other Authority'

Are these decipherable in some way or are there patterns involved in them that can help in any way?

Thanks

[Keith Jones 989]

I have started a different post as whilst it relates to my research it is a general enquiry rather than specific to my records.

on the far left of all the forms we have been sent in records is a column titled 'No of Part II Order or other Authority'

Are these decipherable in some way or are there patterns involved in them that can help in any way?

Thanks

During my time the procedure for notifying occurrences which affected soldiers' careers and administration - promotion, leaving one unit and arriving at another unit on posting, leaving one country and arriving in another country, getting married, change of next of kin etc, etc were all promulgated by units on Part 2 (for our own arm soldiers) or Part 3 (for soldiers in our battalion but who were REME, RAPC or ACC etc) Orders which were typed up in the Orderly Room and sent to Record Offices or Regimental Pay Offices which were located in various parts of the UK. The serial number and date of issue was then annotated on the soldier's record of service as the authority for the change that was made as a result of that Part 2 or 3 Order. For research purposes, when a soldier became entitled to a medal or other decoration it was notified to everybody concerned by issuing a Part 2/3 Order. There were other authorities which were quoted for other entries, such as DCIs (Defence Council Instructions), AOs (Army Orders), PW (The Pay Warrant) and AGAIs (Army General Administrative Instructions). Many of which are probably now defunct (or at least called something else?).

Apart from perhaps being able to tell which unit a soldier was serving on the date the authority was issued I don't see what other use that tiny piece of information might be to a researcher. I stand to be corrected on that, by the huge number of very wise and experienced military researchers who inhabit this forum!

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[Anniek]

ah ok - thanks Keith. It might not be hugely useful for research but it does help explain what it is all about so thanks.

I have been sat here looking at things like B.O.Pt II no 68, DO III/40, we have a CWD at one point and quite a few with 2 references given for 1 thing and I have been wondering what on earth that could possibly stand for. Seem to be a lot of DO and BO which COULD have been vitally important to my research. oh well it was worth a try.
:o)

[Keith Jones 989]

ah ok - thanks Keith. It might not be hugely useful for research but it does help explain what it is all about so thanks.

I have been sat here looking at things like B.O.Pt II no 68, DO III/40, we have a CWD at one point and quite a few with 2 references given for 1 thing and I have been wondering what on earth that could possibly stand for. Seem to be a lot of DO and BO which COULD have been vitally important to my research. oh well it was worth a try.
:o)

BO = Brigade Order
DO = Divisional (or District) Order
CWD = don't know. Have come across Chronic Wasting Disease or Commonwealth War Department - but no confidence in either translation!

[ivor43]

hi.

could CWD be Chemical Warfare Dept.


ivor

[Anniek]

the CWD one is when he was transferred to be a driver so won't be anything exciting.

thanks for the others.

[ivor43]

Hi.
On most of the Abbreviation web sites i have looked at, including a Canadian one,
CW stands for Chemical Warfare.
But.
In the following link CW refers to ''Continuous Wave'' which refers to a type of a radio communication system,
This link is quite detailed and technical. But i does mention Despatch Riders and it would appear that there were Mobile CW units which probably would need a driver.

http://nigelef.tripod.com/artycomm.htm

Ideas anyone.

ivor

[Anniek]

it could be CWS? It was when he was put on the Y list to be transferred to being a driver. very bottom left hand corner of this one, not very clear on the photo sadly because it is on the edge of it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/einnaf/...n/photostream/

I promise you it won't be an exciting one. probably central work services or something.

[Keith Jones 989]

it could be CWS? It was when he was put on the Y list to be transferred to being a driver. very bottom left hand corner of this one, not very clear on the photo sadly because it is on the edge of it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/einnaf/...n/photostream/

I promise you it won't be an exciting one. probably central work services or something.

Sorry, can't help with that.