Militiaman or RWF

**Baconwallah** · 23-10-2013, 22:47

More likely in London than in Wales, I should think, Ivor. But it's not impossible.

John

**ivor43** · 23-10-2013, 22:54

I was thinking , if there was a Lancashire connection, then there could have been a possible accent problem even though he was born in Wrexham.

ivor

**Taff Wrexham** · 23-10-2013, 23:06

I would say almost certainly. The Allmands had many variations ranging from Aman to Ormand. I guess it was how it was pronounced and heard. Furthermore, the majority of them were illiterate.

**ap1** · 23-10-2013, 23:45

Originally Posted by Taff Wrexham

Can you tell me how you found the John Hallmond - Burma; I seem unable to locate this.

Ancestry UK Tony, record located within the Card Catalogue .

**Taff Wrexham** · 24-10-2013, 00:33

Found it eventually.

**ivor43** · 24-10-2013, 09:47

Hi all.
As i lived in the Wrexham area i know that historically the local Coal field in the period we are looking at would have rivalled S.Wales. It brought Miners in from all parts of the country, so miners from Lancashire would not have been unusual. and i know a real Lancashire Dialect is very difficult to understand.
But , and this may be totally wrong, from the mid 1600's German miners were being employed in British mines, a lot in the Tin mines of the S West. so i wondered if there may be a possibility that the spelling Allmands may have been a corruption of the French word for German. Allemagne.
We probably will never know.

ivor

**Taff Wrexham** · 24-10-2013, 17:51

Several derivations of the name. The Allmands I am chasing were Agricultural labourers through and through. I can trace them to Worthenbury (5 miles from Wrexham) around 1700.