4192026 L?Cpl Leonard Brooks

**Baconwallah** · 13-09-2013, 10:13

RSM Goddard was held in Stalag XXIB.

John

**ivor43** · 13-09-2013, 11:06

Hi John.
Thanks.
Sadly i have my Investigation head on again.
Stalag XXA THORN was actually only about 45 miles from Stalag XX1B which was at SZUBIN both were close to the Town of BYDGOSZCZ.
Stalag XX1B was a camp for Officers. apparently situated in, what had been a Boys School.
Would i be right in assuming that a RSM would have been considered an Officer.
Also it appears that some 4,500 PoW's from Dunkirk were housed here. so my theory may still hold some merit.

ivor

**ap1** · 13-09-2013, 11:17

Without wanting to swing this thread away from Leonard Brooks, some of the guys from the 1st Bn captured were also held at Larmsdorf. Including RSM Sherriff RWF, who was the senior British commander in that camp. He later received an MBE for his efforts.

**ivor43** · 13-09-2013, 11:32

Al.
I agree. what i have been trying to assess is if there is any point in linking this to the St Venant thread for Tony and Jim. I know it is not directly relevant to the thread, but i know Jim is researching 2 DLI in much more detail and this just might have some relevance. .

Ivor

**ivor43** · 13-09-2013, 13:33

Hi Al.
Looking up Lamsdorf Stalag V111B it would appear to have been a Transit Camp as well as it is recorded that 100,000 men passed through it. Could this have been a stop on the march and RSM delegated as SBO. doe's not sound a very nice place.
I have put a post on the St Venant thread to Jim and Tony and hopefully this aspect of things will be transferred there.

ivor

**Verrieres** · 14-09-2013, 14:07

Hello Ivor, I picked up your link thanks. In relation to L/Cpl Brooks his MiD was awarded for ... recognition of
gallant and distinguished services in the field.....at this time the following RWF were also listed as awarded MiD`s

Maj. (actg.) O. T. M. RAYMONT (47192) (died of
wounds).
Capt. A. J. LEWIS (52655) (killed in action).
Capt. (temp.) J. E. T. WILLES (62609).
Lt. (Qr.-Mr.) A. G. BENT, M.B.E., M.M. (63856).
2nd Lt. F. M. EDWARDS (74637)
4192026 Lee.-Cpl. L. BROOKS.
4159851 Fus.-. E. W. FIDDLER.

In relation to MiD citations John is perfectly correct in what he stated about citations, however there are exceptions such as when a recommendations for higher awards are downgraded say from a Military Medal to a MiD then the original MM recommendation (if it survived) is retained as a MiD citation.(Hope that makes sense)

Best

Jim

**ap1** · 14-09-2013, 14:44

Cheers Jim, very interesting. Regarding the QM Lt Bent, he was evacuated from the beach, as evidenced in the link below and never went into captivity:

http://rwf-forum.co.uk/vBulletin/sho...highlight=bent

I suppose its possible that some of the recommendations had to wait until the observers of individual actions were released in 1945 and able to put recommendations forward? Just a theory.

**ivor43** · 15-09-2013, 14:51

hi Al.
After seeing Jim's list, i think it safe to say that the MID would have been from ROBECQ.
From what i know from the St Venant thread this man has my

Total Respect.

ivor

**ivor43** · 15-09-2013, 18:47

Hi all.
While looking at the St Venant thread. Jungle emailed me several pages of the RWF Book.( The Red Dragon ?) On page 30 will be found the part that 2Lt F.M.Edwards played in the attempted withdrawal from Robecq.
The MID was Gazetted on 25.11.1945.

ivor.