Unknown picture - blairy collection

[ap1]

Linked to the below photo, which is from Blairys superb collection, currently displayed on Facebook. I don't think these guys are named, but with the amount of silverware on display, I wondered if there was a small chance some of our experts may be able to pick out the detail. I wonder if its a "Survivors" picture at the cessation of hostilities. There's a diverse grouping of rank shown? Brilliant picture.

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[ivor43]

hi.
interesting pic.as you say lot of silverware. If someone can confirm. if these guys are wearing ''Pip Squeak and Wilfred'' then the photo can be dated to later than 26 July 1919. This being the date that the British War Medal was established. So i would think you are probably right in it being a ''Survivors''pic


ivor

[dcdl12976]

Had a look at this blown up 250 % but im afraid the image is to poor quality to say for certain what medals are worn however I believe there is two officers with the Military Cross and several appear to be wearing the 14/18 or 1914 star certainly three medals on several men are in the correct order for the WW1 awards but the third meadal on far right seems to have a solid centre stripe which of course the Victory medal does not, according to http://www.greatwar.co.uk/medals/ww1...ign-medals.htm this is the story Pip, Squeak and Wilfred

Pip, Squeak and Wilfred are the affectionate names given to the three WW1 campaign medals — The 1914 Star or 1914-15 Star, British War Medal and Victory Medal respectively. These medals were primarily awarded to the Old Contemptibles (B.E.F.). and by convention all three medals are worn together and in the same order from left to right when viewed from the front. The set of three medals or at least the British War Medal and the Victory Medal are the most likely medals to be found among family heirlooms.
When the WW1 medals were issued in the 1920's it coincided with a popular comic strip published by the Daily Mirror newspaper. It was written by Bertram J. Lamb (Uncle Dick), and drawn by the cartoonist Austin Bowen Payne (A.B. Payne). Pip was the dog, Squeak the penguin and Wilfred the young rabbit. It is believed that A. B. Payne's batman during the war had been nicknamed “Pip-squeak” and this is where the idea for the names of the dog and penguin came from. For some reason the three names of the characters became associated with the three campaign medals being issued at that time to many thousands of returning servicemen, and they stuck. so assuming this is correct the picture must have been taken in the 1920s.

[Baconwallah]

A better scan at 300 dpi or more would help.

John

[ap1]

Agree John, dependent on the quality of Grahams original. Looking at the WO next to the right side officer, both he and the Sgt appear to be wearing DCM's

[dcdl12976]

I agree whilst a higher res scan may help it will do so only if the original is good enough but lets give it a go anyway if possible

[ivor43]

hi all.
have tried this in a couple of photo programmes. without any success sadly there does not seem to be enough detail on this copy to enhance.I have used both Photoscope and Gimp which although free progs are good.
I am interested to know if the crosses worn by the two in the center of the 2nd rank are the Military Cross. as it is the only one i can find which is that shape.
It would appear that some are wearing ''pip squeak and wilfred'' and a couple of ''Mutt and Jeffs'' However i am puzzled that a couple appear to be wearing 2 stars.
any ideas anyone.


ivor.

[Baconwallah]

Blairy sent me a bigger copy and I'll try to identify the officers.

Can't see a bar on any of the Stars, which seems to exclude the 1st and 2nd Bns.

John

[ap1]

Blairy's informed me he received the picture from Richard Ward. I'm assuming Richard will know who the unit and perhaps individuals are.

[Blairy]

Richard does not know and asked if I could help ........I cannot so put it to a bigger audience ...