mason s 11354/202583

**steviebyday** · 15-08-2012, 14:39

been trying to find information on my grandfather, who i assumed was in the 4th bat, i have no been informed that on his medal card were it says page 11268 that this relates to the 13th bat, and that he is on the casualty list for the 11/6/1918, can anyone give any further information. steve

**Baconwallah** · 15-08-2012, 15:35

Steve, the numbers are certainly 4th Bn numbers. The original number indicates a late enlistment, late 1916 or very early 1917 I'd say, renumbered (also in the 4th Bn series) with effect from 01/03/1917.

I cannot find Samuel Mason's service or pension records, and he is not in the Silver War Badge lists, so I can neither confirm nor deny the 13th Bn transfer. It would not have been unusual, that's all I can say.

Hywyn (Gwilwil) may know more.

Hope this helps.

John

**steviebyday** · 15-08-2012, 16:14

thanks for your help, this means i will have to start again go down the 13th route see what comes up, along with yourself some people have been very helpful. steve

**Baconwallah** · 15-08-2012, 16:26

As I said, Hywyn will probably be able to provide more information. He has a lot of wounded lists. Give him a day or so to react, and it might save you a lot of digging.

John

**Hywyn** · 15-08-2012, 19:30

Here's my reply on the Rootschat forum
"

Steve

Samuel Mason 11354/202583 RWF is on a War Office RWF wounded casualty list dated 11/6/1918. This is the list date , not the date he was wounded. Generally the lists relate to wounding 4-6 weeks previously. Allthough his number is in the 4th Bn (TF) number block by that stage in the war men with TF numbers could be serving in any Battalion. In fact the actual Medal Roll for him (the page 11268 reference on his medal card) shows 13th Battalion only. The list is quite a lengthy one being 321 in total. Although I haven't thoroughly researched it I have seen enough to give an informed opinion that it is one of the lists of the 113rd Bde (13th, 14th, 16th Bns) casualties from an attack carried out to secure observation into the Ancre Valley on 22nd April 1918. This is barely mentioned in the Regimental History and even then is described as a 'minor affair'. Yet between them the battalions lost ORs to the tune of 113+ Killed, 455+ wounded and 36+ missing!!!

The lists proved a placename for the men. His shows Birkenhead. Which AVL is it that shows him as 4th Bn RWF? I have the AVL for Birkenhead West but didn't spot him in my trawl for RWF men in it. I may have missed him though. I'd be interested in the location of any of the other Birkenhead AVLs. "

Hywyn