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    Re: Thailand 2009 - The Bridge Over The River Kwai

    Visited Hellfire Pass today http://www.hellfirepass.com/museum_hellfire_pass.html

    This stretch of line is about 8kms north of Kanchanaburi, and closer to the Burmese border. The centre consists of a museum and a renovated stretch of the route of the railway line. It includes a 7km walk through the jungle following the line's route. The entire set up is funded by the Australian Govenment and is very impressive. (Australian and British POW's worked on this stretch).

    The name "Hellfire Pass" was came from the "Speedo" period in 1943, when the POW's were forced to work around the clock in order too complete the line. At night their work was illuminated by a combination of Bamboo Oil Lamps and Carbide Lamps, which the POW's said it gave the cuttings an errie, hellish appearance.

    Walking along the trail in the oppressive heat, looking at the solid rock that they cleared in order to proceed the line, it must have been hell. Death was the only way out. These guys really were forgotten by us the nation after the war, always respected as individuals by their families, friends and local communities. But not by their country, who showed very little recognition of their suffering, and of course now it is really too late. It must be a very British thing to ignore your own, I wonder if we will make that mistake again?

    The whole site is very humbling, and a worthy tribute to the men, in that it allows their story to be graphically told.
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    Re: Thailand 2009 - The Bridge Over The River Kwai

    I'm the caretaker of the medals to a man who diied (cholera) during the Speedo, working on the Wampo Viaduct, not far from the Hellfire Pass if I'm correct.

    Horrible times.
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    Excellent read Al glad your having a great time, grab as much time as you can to visit other things its a wonderful country and like you said the people are very friendly considering what they have compared to westerners, keep the blog going mate and safe journey.

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    Having been in Bangkok for about 5 days, I would say its a frenetic city, where east meets west. What i've loved about the stay in the city is everyone is friendly and welcoming, I know its a cliche, but its true. The people who live here are happy enjoying all trappings of big city life, bars, great shopping, good transportation, decent wages. However their lives still revolve around their Buddhist religion, there are temples and small shrines everywhere.

    Its a great big melting pot, everyone just rubs along fine, getting on with their busy lives. Having been here by myself for most of the time, I have not once felt uncomfortable or threatened. Certainly females travelling around here, would find it a completely different experience to say Egypt or Tunisia.

    On Monday, Sharon and myself headed to Thornburi Stn, in the west of Bangkok, and picked up a local train to Kanchanaburi. It was 3rd class, just us and mostly locals. The journey took 3hrs and it was a great way to see the country outside of the Bangkok fishbowl. As we started to get closer to our destination, we started to pass through stations with names that were familiar to anyone who has read the stories from the death railway.

    On arrival at Kanchanaburi, we were picked up and taken to our accomodation at The Oriental Kwai Resort www.orientalkwairesort.com Wow, we were blown away, a small set up owned and run by Thai/Dutch family, its about 10kms from the town, set in lush jungle alongside the Mae Klong River, visually its stunning and it really does take your breath away. It is very small with only 10 cottages, so the service is top class. The accom costs about £60 a night per cottage(with breakfast). The food and drink are very cheap, by uk standards, although you will find cheaper in the area. They have access to their own cars, and a round trip to the town will cost 400bht(about £8).


    On Tues, we hired up a Longtail Boat and sped down the river to The Bridge Over The River Kwai. The journey took about 30 mins, and it was a great way to catch that first glimpse of the bridge as we snaked around a river bend. The main pillars of the bridge are still standing, clearly showing the bomb damage from another era. The bridge itself was badly damaged, and had to be rebuilt using some of the metal spars etc.

    At the moment Im reading "The Railway Man" by Eric Lomax. He was held and tortured in Kanchanaburi by the Jap Secret Police. Its seem strange to visiting an area frequented by tourists that in a previous life meant so much suffering to British and Allied soldiers. One of Lomax's torturers later overcome by guilt opened a Buddhist Temple next to the bridge and funded a lot of charity work. Lomax later met him at the bridge, some of you may recall the documentary. Anyway the book brings everything sharply into focus, and allows you to see beyond the tourist sites.

    Later in the afternoon, we travelled to the Allied Cemetery and the adjoining museum, where over 7000 unfortunates are buried. We spent the afternoon photographing a decent sized number of graves for Forum Member "Memorialman". Its seems a strange thing to be doing on your holiday, but it was actually very satisfying for both of us.

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    Its been a great trip, and I intend to return next year. I was chatting to a Belguim couple the other day. They paid 460 euros each for a return train ticket from Brussels to Paris, with onward direct return flights from Paris to Bangkok included in the price. Its quite possible that members living in the south of the UK may pick up similar offers, travelling via the eurotunnel to Paris and onwards. Once your in Thailand it is so cheap to travel and accomodate yourself.

    I attached a couple of pics from Hellfire Pass and one of the view from the accom we stayed at in Kanchanaburi.

    All the rock in Hellfire Pass was removed by explosives, but only after the POW's had conducted "Hammer n Tap", which involved hammering a steel rod up to 1 metre in length into the solid rock, the resulting hole was then filled with explosives...

    Last night we caught the overnight sleeper train from Bangkok to Suret Than, and then got the ferry to Ko Samui(90 min crossing). The cost for the two of us return? about £40. Not especially brilliant, I feel like Ive wasted 24hrs :-(, but anyway, we are now settled into our accom on the beach at Maenamburi Resort...7 days to push, then its back to sunny, smelly Kabul...ewwwww!!!
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    maenam hey Al, thats where i stay in samui i stop at the new sunrise village not far from the market, rite on the beach my idea of heaven 4 weeks was spent there.mainly for the beach as its pretty nice on a hot day, how are you finding the heat? when i was there in april last year it was imence, mind you i suppose you are use to it, have you tried Lamai out yet?its a bit away from maenam but worth a night out, u can book a deccent room there for 350 baht log cabin if you decide to stay over if your planning for a drink. sounds like your having a gd time.

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    Its been a great trip, and I intend to return next year. I was chatting to a Belguim couple the other day. They paid 460 euros each for a return train ticket from Brussels to Paris, with onward direct return flights from Paris to Bangkok included in the price. Its quite possible that members living in the south of the UK may pick up similar offers, travelling via the eurotunnel to Paris and onwards. Once your in Thailand it is so cheap to travel and accomodate yourself.

    I attached a couple of pics from Hellfire Pass and one of the view from the accom we stayed at in Kanchanaburi.

    All the rock in Hellfire Pass was removed by explosives, but only after the POW's had conducted "Hammer n Tap", which involved hammering a steel rod up to 1 metre in length into the solid rock, the resulting hole was then filled with explosives...

    Last night we caught the overnight sleeper train from Bangkok to Suret Than, and then got the ferry to Ko Samui(90 min crossing). The cost for the two of us return? about £40. Not especially brilliant, I feel like Ive wasted 24hrs :-(, but anyway, we are now settled into our accom on the beach at Maenamburi Resort...7 days to push, then its back to sunny, smelly Kabul...ewwwww!!!

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    You can see the results of Al's photography at:

    Cambridgeshire Regiment Deaths World War 2

    and at:

    Kanchanaburi War Cemetery

    Many, many thanks Al.

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