What do you make on the French trying to take over from the UK as deputy leader of NATO citing Brexit
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What do you make on the French trying to take over from the UK as deputy leader of NATO citing Brexit
Is France now part of NATO, I know a number of years ago refused to be part of it. But stated that it would support NATO Forces if Europe was threatened
France is now a full member of NATO and the guys I've worked with have been 100% professional. However, as NATO has sod all to do with the EU and our membership - or not - of that organisation, I fail to see why they are trying it on...
wonder if it's anything to do with the fact they just don't like us after all we were at war with them for over a hundred years once that's not counting all the wars in between.Unlike yourself I had no dealings with French troops whilst I was in the army all so it's nice to hear from someone who has,all I can go on is reports that I have read.Quote:
Originally Posted by RHA-Dropshort
Typical French sour grapes because of Brexit. Leaving the EU has nothing to do with our membership of NATO.
Britain could lose the most senior military position it holds in Nato after Brexit, experts have warned amid concern over how the break with Europe could affect the UK’s defence capabilities.
The Royal United Services Institute (Rusi) said the post of Deputy Supreme Allied Commander (DSACEUR) – held by Britain for more than 60 years – could be transferred to an EU member to retain links to the union.
France is reportedly among the countries vying to take the position, which ranks at number two in the alliance’s military command structure, with only the American Supreme Allied Commander above.
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Wasn't it last year or the year before they had to borrow some of our planes to get equipment and troops into Africa some where.
Just a little joke "why are there so many trees in Paris"
"so the French can hide when the Germans come"
Well the French have never thought much of this country at any level. De Gaulle hated us with a vengeance as far back as WW1. WW2 over 70% of the population supported Germany, they refused to immobilised their overseas fleet which resulted in a very short naval engagement. In more recent times this is a fellow NATO member who supplied during the Falklands War, the Argentinian military with munitions, technical information and French technicians.Quote:
Originally Posted by jones20
I think history shows that the French have a poor record in the defence of continental Europe. Plus as others have said on this thread E.U. membership has nothing to do with our membership of NATO, nor the ability of our armed forces.
It's the French causing more mischief, stirring the pot to see what comes to the surface.
A meeting of the French High Command at a secret location in around 1919. " J'ai un plan ruse Baudrier ". Rough translation I have a cunning plan Baldric. Thus the plan for the defence of Paris was formed.Quote:
Originally Posted by jones20
Out of 28 NATO members only five USA,Poland,Estonia,Greece and Uk contribute the minimum 2% GDP.France which wants to take over from UK contributes 1.7% so if it wants to take over from UK someone tell they to pay their share
Or to put it more bluntly pay up or shut up
Is this Trump's complaint with regards to NATO, that America plus the other countries are subsidising the remaining 23 members.
Plus France again only deploys it's military in support of French interests just like it's civil policies.
It's is like paying into an insurance policy, you want the full cover of the policy but will not pay the full premiums.
I think America pays in around 70% of the NATO budget you can see why he's P'ed off
We should be telling them, No Trade deal then bye bye NATO. The Russians would have to travel across all of Europe before they got to us. Might give the French/Germans etc some incentive to be kinder in the BREXIT negotiations
Yes and tell them that this time there will be no Royal Navy or British Merchant Marine to pull them out of Europe, plus we will brick up the Channel Tunnel.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve wright
Interesting to read from a well known think tank due to cutbacks etc the British army would only last an afternoon against a threat such as Russian think I'll slit my wrists now
Should wind their necks in and keep their noses out. Braz
See that Germany has refused to pay the required 2% to fund NATO is that because they know a European army is on the books and NATO is on the way out
Will be interesting to see America's (Trump's ) reactions to this in the light of his comments with regard to NATO members paying the towards the up keep of NATO.Quote:
Originally Posted by jones20
Well I did see that the secretary of defence was in the uk this week also the EU with a view to telling NATO what to say to Trump when he comes over in a few weeks. Like you say it will be interesting