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I do hope this does not come about.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...1466-31290416/
A battalion of the Royal Welsh is the most likely to face the axe under the UK Government’s review of the armed forces, WalesOnline has learned.
Confirmation of the decision is not expected until Thursday but it is understood 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh is the most likely to get the chop.
I think the fact that Mike Hooley is commenting as Asst Reg Secretary, suggests its a done deal. Surely if you have too many cavalry regiments, cutting an infantry battalion doesn't change anything??/ Bizarre. Sounds like a policy decision made on the hoof.
This was also full on in the Western Mail this morning. Though I did mention it in a trend a few weeks back.
Lucky I got redundancy to finish in Dec. Though the recruiting system will also be in a mess.
The Goverment & powers that be won't be happy until regiments become faceless No's ...The 1022bn 67889 Regt The British Army Corps !!
Well if we go back to one Battalion again why was the name changed in the first place, as if there is only one we might as well call it 1st Bn RWF.
Further to your comment John, will Cardiff still be Regimental HQ if the 2nd Bn goes. If it is, will they have the same power as they have now?
I can see your reasoning but personally I do not think they will revert from the present title. And are you not forgetting the 3rd Battalion. It would not surprise me if it ends up the same way as the Glos/D&D/DERR/B &W (The M4 Bn) who are now 1 RIFLESQuote:
Originally Posted by johnnye63
On a briefing last friday, there will be 22 uits Merging or Disbanding:
4 x RE, 5 x INF, 2 x RA, 1 x Sigs, 2 x RAC, 1 x RMP, 1 x REME, 1 x AAC, 6 x RLC.
They are hoping that ex regulars leaving will join the TA.
The Government keep saying that more responsibility will go to TA Bn,s,but personally i cannot see this happening,and as for for people made redundant will be joining the TA this is just wishfull thinking by the Government
I have done some research into the possible disbandment of reg Bn's and i have found the following:
There are 55 Reg Bn's, and the split for the varioius divisions is as follows:
Scots Div - 5 Bn's (1 Regt) ... Queens Div - 6 Bn's (3 Regts) ... Kings Div - 5 Bn's (2 Regts) ... Pof W Div - 5 Bn's (2 Regts) ... The Rifles - 5 Bn's ... R Irish - 1 Bn ... Para - 3 Bn's (it is very doubtful if the cuts will affect the Paras due to the current role of 1 Para. In addition there is the 2 Bn's of the Gurkha Regt
Having looked at the above figures, how can the press and Cardiff say that one of the Bn's to be disbanded will be a Royal Welsh Bn when we have only 2 Bn's (3 Mercian Bn's) The other divisions have regiments with 5 or more Bn's, like the Pof W Div.
I believe that the Bn's that should be disbanded should come from fm Scots Div, from Queens div, and the Rifles. We will have to wait until Thu to see what happens, but I hope and pray that we the Royal Welsh will not be affected
I think the cronies in Westminster are to scared to axe any Scottish Reg due to the up coming referendum there,but like somebody previous pointed out they are having trouble recruiting,and surely we do not need all them Guards Bn,s,but all in all i suppose it boils down to which Regts senior officers serving and retired have the bigger balls
Agreed Wil. Keep a Welsh/Scots/Irish Guards, and bin either the Coldstreamers or Grenadiers. Their historical contribution is no more or less than our old regiment. As you say its old boys stuff.
Will hit the nail on the head. The Government are afraid to touch any of the Scotish Regt because of the referendum on Scotish Independence coming up and they fear a backlash. Traditionally, the "old boys" network won't touch the English Cavalry or Guards Units so its obviously they will go for the Regt that will offer them the least resistance, even though recruitment from Wales is higher than anywhere else in the UK.
The writing is on the wall, this Government won't be happy until we're all just one large nameless units like our American counterparts. For all her faults (and there was a few) this would never have happened in Thatchers days
Its seems the plan was always to cut the battalions and to make it easier they renames them the same ie 1st and 2nd Btns Rifles,Mercian,Royal Welsh, as now they can say well you can keep one Btn, Oh thanks, as if to say we will disband the RRW the effect and protest against would of been greater!!!! Cunning Government Military advisor's, we aint that stupid! It saddens me to see our fine regiments axed in such away - Who do we the Inf have in our corner ?
According to the Guardian today a leaked document states that the QDG are safe but a Bn of the R Welsh is going to axed.
The proposals, whose publication has been delayed by Downing Street because of their sensitivity, show historic units to be axed include the third battalion of the Yorkshire regiment and the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders, the fifth battalion of the Royal Regiment of Scotland. One battalion will be lost from the Royal Welsh, the Mercians and the Royal Fusiliers.
The battalions to be saved include the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards, the Queen's Dragoon Guards and the Royal Dragoon Guards. The Parachute Regiment's three battalions will be spared.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/ju...vealed-in-leak
Why save all them tankies when there is now a dire shortage of big and little tanks due to mothballing etc,and why oh why do we need more than 4 Bn of guards,there will come a time in the not to distant future when somebody will say "oh ****" why did we scrap all those infantry regiments
Disgrace to hear about the cuts and amalgamation of the 2 R Welsh battalions. I wonder if Cameron or sideshow Clegg will deliver the brown letters personally to our boys in Helmand who are spilling their blood on the battlefield daily to fight for a government that cares so little for them. In a country who's head of state shakes hands with a known IRA terrorist in the name of peace and progress leaves a very bad taste in the mouth of many service personnel who have dedicated their lives to support this country home and abroad. What's the difference between getting shot by The Taliban
disguised as afghan police in cold blood or by being stabbed in the back by your own government - none
So Welsh soldiery that has served the Crown since the middle ages is stabbed in the back by politicians and the Guards centric MOD establishment. It defies belief that one third of Welsh infantry strength is sacrificed; whilst infantry battalions who are unable to recruit in their own areas and are reliant on foreign soldiers remain untouched. Thursday 5 July 2012 must surely be one of the most shameful days in the history of the British Army and as for the Welsh Secretary, Cheryl Gillan, if she had a shred of honour she would resign now as she has failed lamentably in her supposed duty of representing Wales at UK government level. My heartfelt sympathy goes out to the victims of this act of treachery, the Royal Welshmen who’ll be made redundant and future Welsh soldiers who will end up serving in non-Welsh regiments once vacancies for the Welsh Guards and Royal Welsh are filled.
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Any truth in what ive heard today that its the 1st battalion Royal Welsh ( RWF ) that are being axed ?
That's what I heard. The 1st will go, the 2nd (which has an armoured role) will become the new 1st.
John
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Posted on fb today.
We no longer need such a large Army...............we do however need 5 Battalions of service personnel to cover security for the Olympic Games. Even the thickest of thick skinned Politician and "associate military advisors" must be feeling pretty stupid right now. Wake up call number one already Mr Cameron.
So the government don't want to keep the Senior Welch Regiment or rename it the 1st Royal Welch Fusiliers. Well in that case i think they should make cuts to the Government and Disspand some of the Political Parties and then see if it causes any mayhem.
yes mate thats what i heard sounds to me good bye chesterQuote:
Originally Posted by Baconwallah
Another quote from FB.
Dear Serving Soldier,
I appreciate that you may be a bit busy at the moment, but just before I give you the sack would you mind awfully helping out at a small sporting event we are holding in London this month. You see I have just spent £475,000,000 on a private firm to do the security but they trousered the money and cannot commit. I have managed to wangle an old warehouse for your accommodation & some rat packs for food, but you should be used to that by now.(Gotta keep the cost down L.O.L). Many thanks David Cameron. P.S. Your my favourites ..