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Well the day has arrived for the clash with the old enemy at Twickenham. There has been plenty of speculation about the English team but not a great deal about the Welsh boys. Todays game is very special to us, cause if we win, we take the "TRIPLE CROWN", and this will be the first time since 2008 that we would have won it. Good luck to the boys in red and hope to see you going down the M4 tommorrow with the 6 Nations Trophy.
Cymru am Byth
Yes narrow Welsh win for me,although my wife and kids will be willing England on,just want a cracker of a match
Dai 55
Game over and the score is 12-19 to Wales. YES> YES> YES.... trophy on its way home.\
Saw the game...tacky to be honest.
England have a good team,youngsters that are not afraid of names.
Wales I think need to keep hold of the ball more rather than kick kick kick.
great that we won the triple crown,on its way down the m4 soon Rog.
England played very well but let’s be honest Wales went in as favourites so England had nothing to lose even if they had been hammered. Wales were vastly better against South Africa and France in the World Cup and lost. For far too long we have been gallant losers so if we win ugly or by a bit of luck I will take that, for me what mattered most was the result. All that said the Scott Williams try was outstanding and worthy of the winning score.
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Must admit England played very well and if Farrel would have kicked that penalty under the post and made it 15 - 9 WE WOULD HAVE LOST Farrel deserved man of the match but a win is a win George North must learn to side step he is to easy to defend against same thing all the time try and go through players Preistland is rubbish and must be dropped
Dai 55
Too much credit fo England I fancy. Yes they improved by a huge margin but they didn't have to do that much to make that statement correct. Farrel was good no doubt about it, but Halfpenny also missed kicks. You can debate Ifs and buts all day long but the fact is, Wales yet again went down to 14 men, Brian Moore commented the average of a ten point loss for a yellow card period yet, England went down three points instead of taking the advantage. To say that any team played well who lose points in a period of playing 14 men frankly baffles me. It was Wales who played well or as Gatland put it "played better with 14 than they were with 15".
Priestland had a mare fair play but to say he is rubbish is laughable, when he is so highly rated in the Rugby world. For me he is no Stephen Jones....yet but he has more about him than Hook (in my opinion). Much has been said about the youth of the New England but let's not forget that this Welsh squad is not exactly full of "old war horses" they are still learning and still have improvement in them.
I agree with Gwyn. England went out there to stop Wal;es playing and for 60 mins did a pretty good job. A very interesting style of defence by England but fairly effective. Priestland wasn't allowed to have a good game and I would suggest that the game plan was to kick and try and break up the solid defence England put up because our big guns did have a very hard time penetrating their defence with battering runs. Wales must not be forgotten in the defence stakes they gave their all for the cause and reaped the reward. The All Blacks have learnt to win ugly and now Wales have as well.......WELL DONE LADS you did the Nation proud roll on a week Saturday and Italy followed by perhaps a Grand Slam decider against France to end the 6 Nations.
Hingey
Sorry Paul but how often do you see the all blacks win ugly not often British teams do all the time and i dont think Wales won ugly they came up against a very well organised team who played very well never rated Preistland and Halfpenny tries to run out of 22 all the time george North as i said to easy to defend against we actually won the game with a kick that bounced well with luck or were you watching a different game
I would hate to read the posts if Wales had lost,just enjoy the win lads,,Wales have got the best squad of players at their disposal so there is not much to choose from unfortunately as Wales as a rugby country is not swimming with world class players,and to say Preistland and Halfpenny are not up to the standard is laughable.i suppose when we win the grand slam people will be calling for Gatlands head
I think Dai is watching a different game to the rest of us and certainly has a different idea of what is good Rugby. England at the moment have the least amount of trys scored in the Six Nations with Two. Halfpenny is the leading points scorer...so far. Points for and against give Wales +23 France +24 Ireland + 30 and England (ahead of Scotland and Italy) at....+4. It is easy to say that a player or players are easy to defend against but if a team cannot then turn that defence into a point scoring attack, it's just good defence and is reliant on kicking from ill disciplne and errors from the opposing team ie living off scraps. That for me pretty much sums up the way England have played this championship. (given an improvement against Wales apart from losing points instead of pressing home an advantage.) Three matches played, man of the match three times....A Welsh player.
The winning try was sweet! The ball bounced three times, twice forwards and once back, right in to Scott Williams' hands. Was that lucky? Would he have got it had it bounced forwards again? WHO CARES!!
Watch again, from 2.08 in. The gaining of possession was not luck; Scott Williams' imagination/split second decision to kick instead of run or pass was not luck, that imagination/decision won the game. (Check out Tom Jones at 3:05)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVcQuBzluiQ
Gwyn played the game more time than you had hot dinners mate and a good standard to.my opinion is my opinion and i dont care what others think
Who you play for 55's?
Dai you may very well have played the game many times and to a standard that YOU consider to be good that does not however make you an expert. Of course you are entitled to your opinion as are we all but you will insist on making it as a "statement " which has no factual backing or substance. ie Priestland is rubbish. Try - Priestland is rubbish in my opinion. Incidently if you were good ....and remember i saw you play......Den Willliams 27, Jim Brown, Dilwyn Thomas, Nick Ravenhill, were 1st class. (in my opinion) I myself was a very poor player but you cant have looks and skill all the time can you.:winkicon:
Rog i played for 1st Bn and played on the BAOR tour of WALES,played for lots of local teams wherever i was posted if you talk about Great players Allan Whitrow,one of the best players i seen put on a Bn shirt,i also follow Northampton home and away Rog,
Jonathan Davies is an Ex-International and reckoned Wales would hammer England...........he was wrong as well. Guscott reckons England have the game to beat France - ho ho ho.........that I really do have to see. The point is, the fact that you played the game at any level does not reinforce your opinion over facts no matter how hard the trumpet is blown.
My apologies for not mentioning Chris Campbell and Peter "Charlie" Fenton earlier.
all my opinion Gwyn and you certainly would not change them,Preistland and Halfpenny are both good players or they would not be were they are today,but Halfpenny takes to many chances in own 22 and as seen Saturday was caught a few times and got away with it,Preistland was shocking full stop,i thought England were unlucky to lose again my opinion Farrel was outstanding and causeing us big problems when he went of the game changed Englands ball was slowed down it was certainly a big factor in the game still we go forward and hopefully win Grand slam
One person you have not mentioned is Dave Johnson (Johno), Bn 1st 15 player, Army and CS player.
Johno great Player Chris Campbell was the most capped player and also earned a spot with CS and british police on tour of New Zealand,
I watched the game in a pub in Plymouth and it was called The THREE CROWNS it was destiny in the making , us welsh took over the pub it was an amazing day
I went to a pub in Toronto called "Scallywags" and it was full of Welsh scallywags with a splattering of English, Irish and Scots. I thought it was a very entertaining game with outstanding defense by both sides. The ankle tap (tap tackle) which took out GN was one of my favourite tackles and timing is essential. It was a great tackle that probably saved a try and Sam W's tackle around the ankles of the English centre certainly saved a try. I'm just grateful that most of the Six Nations sides seem to be willing to run a lot more than they used to and this includes the English team.
The Northern Hemisphere sides are getting much bigger and better, in my opinion, and are now much closer to the Southern Hemisphere teams than they have been for many a year.
By the way Gwyn I also had the looks. lol
Dilwyn
there is to much petty bickering, lets all be thank full for the win against a very much improved England side that done their homeworkNow we go for the Grand Slam.
"Bickering" or just harmless banter and a difference of opinions....depends on how you view the thread. At least the thread has some response and some form of discussion going on. I am truly at a loss at what people want or expect from this forum and the members who try at least to make something of it. One minute it is a "Clique" because it is the same people contributing all of the time, now its "bickering" because there is disagreement and a bit of harmless banter on the side.
Perhaps when a thread is posted it should be Sterile and Factual Ie. WALES WON - ENGLAND LOST- this thread is now closed! A bit more like a well informed results page rather than a Forum for General discussion.
Is it worth putting a thread up saying "Can Wales win the Slam" and find out the opinions and thoughts of members or would that be a little too radical, un-pc (is that a word/term) or even thought provoking for some. Either way I think I'll pass on that one.
As a expert exponent of the art of rugby(Griffiths Cup highest try scorer 1983.....Like Barry John I then retired)!!!! I thought it was good match. The score could have gone either way. Certainly Wales supporters shouldn't start thinking they are now masters of the universe. I wasn't overlay impressed by Priestland, I wonder about his confidence. Wasn't he the guy who had problems kicking during the previous match?
was there a match this weekend ? must have nodded off , nite nite