What good thinks have the political parties done for us in the last 100 years

Thought it would be worth looking at what good things the political parties have done for the people of Britian??

Labour - NHS

thats one to get us off with

Sat here for two hours now and still cant think of any,

Dai 55

Me neither , That's why I've moved away from the UK

Can't help but thinking of this favourite from "Life of Brian". What have the Romans ever done for us?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExWfh...eature=related

ATB,
Lars

It may all appear to be falling down around our ears......and I guess that some people on here will no doubt bring up something like "But they dont do anything for us, they cut our jobs, make us poor, destroying our country etc!" but...... lets think of the big picture, by that, I mean what the British Goverment has done for the "Collective good" of the UK. Now, i’m the first to moan and complain against the Left wing, PC brigade politics.....as seen on other threads! However, on the whole, we have it damn good in the UK. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
The following is a small list of what the UK has, due to the different Political Parties and their policies over the past Century. It is their policies which have shaped what the UK is today. It is due to our Political Parties, that I can feel safe to voice my opinion without having a rifle butt smashed across my grid, due to our political system, I can make a complaint against anyone....even the Police... even the Judicial system its self without fear of retaliation or violence.<o:p></o:p>
It is due to UK Political Policies that despite our size, the UK has the world’s 6th largest economy, 8th largest purchasing power. 1st industrialised Nation. Until the end of WWII, was still the dominant World Power. Our economic, cultural, military (we have the world’s 3rd largest Military expenditure), scientific advancements are due to Politics.
Our Politics have influenced other nations (look up 'Westminster System') our Wealth fare system, NHS. Political leaders in the EU, permanant member of the UN, member of the Commonwealth of Nations, G8, G20, NATO, WTO. Independant Nuclear Weapons. Devolved National Administraions so our MPs etc can deal more with "at home issues". <o:p></o:p>
So, what have our Political Parties ever done for us over the past 100 years?...... A lot...... I’m proud to be British

Stu,
were all proud to be British,but i dont know what any of the policies you mentioned has done for me and my family,the country on the whole is in a right mess,schools,hospitals,police force,two leaders who have no clue,alls i know is the next few years is giong to be expensive,get the immigrants OUT,we dont know how many foreign workers we have here,
The word Briton is slowly going,Mark Allan you made a great choice good on you mate,
Dai 55

I too am proud to be British, but to credit politicians and political parties for the achievements of this nation, would discredit the people of this nation who actually did the achieving. We have won wars by soldiers dying in foreign lands on the whim of politicians - who won the wars. We built the finest ships in the world - how many politicians came out of the shipyards. We built (and still do) the finest aircraft engines in the world-most politicians couldn't do an oil change. We have freedom of speech in this country, no rifle butt needed - just deaf ears.

We have a justice system that protects politicians more than it does ordinary citizens (you try saying you didn't realise it was illegall or I misunderstood the rules). We have politicians in Europe-which means we can be told how to run our country and amend our laws without wasting a stamp (prisoners will have the right to vote or we will fine you).

This country has too many immigrants (not racism-fact) the people know it, the immigrants even know it but the politicians who are responsible for immigration appear to disagree. There have been politicians that have come up with very good ideas which is why they were selected for the job by the people. Having an idea is one thing, making it work is a totally different ball game. Sir William Beveridge-the welfare state. In principal a fantastic idea but it has been juggled and revamped so many times (by politicans) that it is now a seething mass of red tape tape that is understood by very few who run it.

Yes, Politics has played a huge part in our history, we are pack animals and therefore need a form of leadership. However, it is because of the people of this country, their courage, their hard work and their determination, that we are where we are in world standings, not because of any political party. Only days after announcing more cuts to our armed forces, William Hague is telling the Arab world how to sort their problems and what is and what is not acceptable to do in their own country. That is one thing we can credit our political parties , sticking their fat noses where they do not belong, and sending our soldiers once again to die on foreign soil. Politicians only talk a good fight...some of them anyway. For me Political parties are a nessesary evil, no more no less.

Every time i look at this thread i try to think of something good they have done, and , for the life of me , i cant. We all make our own way thro life ,hopefully the right wayand doing things that will better ourselves and our families. There are people who have done things for the good of our once great country, and im afraid politicians are not in this cataory, Gwyn has hit the nail on the head, i agree with all he has said, well put mucka. we all live and abide by the laws laid down in this country, but it is something else to be able to make your own laws and then brake them, and state when caught, ( i cant be prosecuted) .
IMIGRATION , a sore subject for us all, HOW MANY! just go to any factory or building site and listen to all the different languages being spoken, but what do the politicians say, we need them to help our economy and growth, just ask them how many there are , you will not get a straight answer, i live in a street of fifteen houses ten of which are occupied by foriegn families, there is no talking to people living in your street anymore because you have to learn different languages just to be understood. POLITICIANS, take them into a field and shoot them down like the dogs they are ( bloody hell , i feel better) take care all

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Can´t think of anything how they helped me ??? when i go home to visit family i cant belive how bad its got back home,
Tryed to take a pic of my niece in her school with my daughter beside her and was told i would need the consent of her mother who was standing by me (one might be a pervert) britian has sunk , hook , line and sinker, im glad i stayed in Germany the last 21 years

Bri,my brother(civi) came out to visit me and my brother Ray 29 PTI in Lemgo 1980 30 years later still lives in Detmold married family having a great life,everything is so much better,sorry to say but E.Powell had the right ideas,

dai 55

Dai,

An MP in the House of Commons last year, quoted E Powell's speech and was called a racist and was asked to resign

As no one can find a good example of what our politician do for us, heres some.
I think that the Caerphilly Borough Council do an excellent job in Ystrad Mynach, excellent Police service and PCSOs, they are always on the ground and can been seen. clean streets, good schools, the refuse collection and recycle system is very good. play ground/parks have been cleaned and refurbished so my 2 young boys can play, a good rugby pitch, a new Hospital being built within 200 metres of my home, road surfaces are being renewed. When I go back home, my wife and I shall be working full time, so we will be entitled to get support for private child care/nursery. I can go into Ystrad Mynach Colleage and enroll into evening classes...free of charge, i will be doing some courses when I go back home. Just a few.....


If you cant think of any positive changes our politicans have done in the past 100 years....then what changes would you do, how would you fund such changes, what effect would your changes have.

Stu, that may well be fine for you in the area you are living and with your council. That unfortunatly is not the case for every town or borough in Wales and England - WHY NOT. Why is it that you can boast all of the things that you have mentioned whilst other areas are so run down, no parks for kids to play in because they are used by druggies and alki's leaving smashed bottles and syringes around the place. Why have you got an excellent Police service when, if my car is being jumped on I will get no response, if I clip the yob the law is there to lift me. Why can you in Wales enroll in a college for free but I cannot in England. Why are some areas so badly run down whilst others (such as yours) are thriving. Why are there post code lotteries for medical treatment and drugs.

We all live in the United Kingdom, we all pay the same tax rates yet we are not equal with the "return" that we recieve from Governments. If the politcial parties were doing so well for us there would be some form of equality, instead of the huge gap between the have's and the have nots. As I mentioned before, these people have brought good things about such as the welfare state but have also messed it up. Our Laws and justice system was admired and copied around the world where is it now, the victim has less protection than offender. PCSO's have their place but they should be as well as, not instead of the Bobby on the beat.

Positive changes are only good if they are maintained and remain positive otherwise they are changes for the sake of change. If you have to have a positive view of change (from me anyway) we no longer send children up chimneys to sweep them causing untold damage to their lungs. We do however allow them to get stinking drunk at the age of twelve/thirteen and do untold damage to their livers.

Stu,a lot of good in this country is down to hard working dedicated people who care and try hard to do there best for themselves and others around,not from the i dont care MP,PLEASE look at the expences scandal says it all?
Lofty Mr Powell was purely something i believe would have been right taking the racist away, as i have lots of coloured freinds who do work hard,the problem is the MP to me was right,however you only have to mention something about someone who is not white and you get hammered in this country,i live in London and believe me i can tell you some things,
Gwyn your two posts on this subject have been enjoyable to read spot on,

Dai 55