stick all the gits down the pits...... oh and fill the pits in after . bit harsh you think well hell i'm in a bad mood shoot me
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stick all the gits down the pits...... oh and fill the pits in after . bit harsh you think well hell i'm in a bad mood shoot me
I remember when i use to get up to no good when i was a kid id have big ritche (my dad) take me around the back and have a chat with his big left ha ha :>)
it is all to easy to blame the police , the reason they get pasted is that they are first in the firing line. we all know where the blame lies , primarily its the parents then the lawmakers of this land who hog tie the police taking away all their power to prosecute , smack round the ear whatever . how frustrating must it be for a hardworking police officer to graft , get all the evidence witnesses etc only to have the dpp throw the case out . we all know how it used to work as tony said the old man would have a quiet word with the a left hand or the local bobby would do the same but if they did it now the claims culture takes over and bang ££££ in their pockets . wise up britain we are going down the tubes fast and unless someone with a big enough pair of balls who we elect into power tackles this problem then we are looking at every generation getting worse and pretty soon the streets will belong to the scum although as some coppers will tell you they already do .
before i shut up on the news around south wales this week all they have been on about is all our emergency services ambulance , fire police etc being abused , threatened had objects thrown at them and more , wtf is going on don't these assholes realise what jobs these poeple do . it is getting worse folks and that is no exaggeration society is falling apart.
ok if you listened thank you now i shut up
Dutchman, please dont shut up your only saying what lots of people are thinking.
Hi Sid
Sorry I got the title wrong, like I said there are exceptions to the rule and when I See Mick on the weekend I'm sure I'll bring the topic up, no need for a Email. wont be long before we begin to see allot more PCSOs taking over from you lot as they're doing such a good job and all that, oh and I nearly forgot you get 2 for the price of 1 PC, that the sort of stats the government like.
Guvs,
Believe it or not mate, The PCSO's starting rate when they join the job is only very slightly less than a new Police officer.(and they had their pay increase given in full- ha ha. Thats another story). I can only speak for the Wrexham area, but a large percentage of PCSO's are actually paid for by local council/authorities. I think this may well be being withdrawn in the future, but Mick Camplin or someone better in the know will have to confirm that. it may be the case that they are then paid for out of the Police budget, and that is when problems may start. As ive said this is only what I believe to be the case at the moment.
In regards to the thread in general, here is one example that has always hit it home to me about lack of respect:
When I was younger, and Im sure it will be the same for the rest of you, If a Police car drove past me and my mates, even if we had done nothing at all, we would put our heads down not wanting to attract attention. These days if I am driving around, the young "hero's" of our communities actual stare directly at you with a look of absolute contempt, trying to get a reaction.or they shout something as we've driven past. For some reason this makes them look 'a bit of a lad' within their group!!
Those that know me will know Im not shy in coming forward, so I usually stop, reverse and ask them what their problem is. This is usually met with either:
- "I Didnt Say anything" or
-"I was only staring it's not an offence"(Unfortunaely very true!)
I would then usually just tell them to grow up and get a life. This will of course, usually end up in a complaint against Police for 'incivility' or whatever. And yes, It has to be investigated! Madness. I can assure that the 'one rule for us and one rule for them' is definately a thing of the 70's/80's.
Im probably gonna shoot myself in the foot here, but if you really want to mess a Police officer about, just make up a mad complaint about them, dont worry about needing witnesses or even that it is totally made up. The Police have to investigate it!!
I know I wont be the only copper reading this that has been interviewed on tape and under caution for something that 10 witnesses and CCTV evidence prove is a malicious complaint. They are so scared of the cover ups that used to go on that they will look into anything you tell them!! Im not saying that all Officers are totally innocent of course not, but its sad when we have to let offenders off with things because the CPS wont carry on the case, then on the other hand our Professional Standards Dept will investigate us fully for a totally obvious lie.
Oh well gotta go now and speak with my Solicitor. Apparantly I put handcuffs on someone too tight the other night.(they were fighting with me at the time!!) Think im joking?
Hmm, food for thought there Scouse. The majority of the public support the Police & most of us know your hands are tied 9 times out of 10 when dealing with these `Scrotes`
Hi Scouse.
I wouldn't have your job ( or a PCSOs ) if they paid me twice as much as your on now It's not worth the hassle, I was brought up to respect my elders, teachers, the police etc. but I'm afraid you don't get that off kids anymore, it reminds me of the early days in Ireland the only difference is them yobs would go home get out there dads AK47 and take a pop at the next patrol, the way things are going that will be happening here soon,Quote my first thread, "I'm chuffed the police got there so soon and were able to do something ,Well done boys" but Sid didn't pick up on that, you can only do your best Scouse, as Jinx 38 use to say keep your head down and your powder dry, till next time
Guvs
Not quite true, I mentioned nothing about response times of the police and how well they did to get there in time, I referred to your comment in reference to the PCSO's I quote "have you seen some of them". Just to give you some indication of what we're up against my rota consists of me plus 4 constables and I cover when on duty 250 sq miles. Each of my officers have an average of 20 crimes they are personally investigating and when they come on duty they have to respond to any other jobs that come in.
The 20 or so victims of each officer expect, and rightly so their crime to be solved and so do the 25 or so victims which we deal with on an average shift............As you can see we are stretched beyond belief but we soldier on and take the huge amount of unnecessary flak from the general public who have no idea what we're up against.
Example of a simple crime and officer comittment.......................You see Johnny too bad who lives down the road steal a bottle of milk from a neighbors door step. We arrive within the response time (if not committed) lock up Johnny take him to custody book him in, await his free and independent legal advice (solicitor,if juvenile plus appropriate adult / social services, interview suspect and probably bail him because he says not me officer I'm innocent, seek CPS advice for charging and complete what we call a full file. This for the most experienced officer with fantastic computer skills will take 5 YES 5 hours.(off the streets)
If you consider that Johnny too bad, never works alone please understand thats why when you ring the police and nobody turns up, their probably at custody with their prisoner/s who they have a duty of care for under the European Human rights Act.
I'm not asking for sympathy as I know none is coming, we just need more officers.
cheers Sid