The New Royal Welsh Capbadge/CollarDogs/Buttons

Hello All,
Like the regimental tailor I would also find it hard to sort out a 5 millimetre green patch to go behind a badge. to the best of my reckoning 5 Mil square is less than a quarter of an inch. I do have a sneaking feeling how ever that if it were 50 millimetre or 5 centimetres which equates roughly to 2 square inches in imperial measure it would be more suitable. At last it does seem Napolean did create some confusion to the English people when he created the metric system of measurement.


Regards to all my readers.
"Don"

UK Sniper,

If that was designed by the Royal College of Art, then I suggest that the college increase their tuition fees next term, and make them attend a 'stop being lazy and unoriginal course'. The lads on NAAFI break could have put more effort in!!

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Originally Posted by Scouse75

UK Sniper,

If that was designed by the Royal College of Art, then I suggest that the college increase their tuition fees next term, and make them attend a 'stop being lazy and unoriginal course'. The lads on NAAFI break could have put more effort in!!

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Scouse people like me are bottom of the food chain in the selection and design of the cap badge.

The green patch is going to be around 50mm square. We won't know exactly until we see the new badge in hand.

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Originally Posted by richard@jungle1810.wanadoo

Hello All,
Like the regimental tailor I would also find it hard to sort out a 5 millimetre green patch to go behind a badge. to the best of my reckoning 5 Mil square is less than a quarter of an inch. I do have a sneaking feeling how ever that if it were 50 millimetre or 5 centimetres which equates roughly to 2 square inches in imperial measure it would be more suitable. At last it does seem Napolean did create some confusion to the English people when he created the metric system of measurement.


Regards to all my readers.
"Don"

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The plan is that it will be 50mm square Don.

What's the history behind the green patch?

I personally think its a crying shame,that the royal welch have amaljamated with the RRW,i like many others joined up as a royal welch man i'm deeply gutted,even my father was gutted and he has never served in the army.I think this goverment needs a good kick up the backside,how can they be cutting back on money if there is still two regular battalions running,does'nt make any sence what so ever,so why the amaljamation then?.thats what i always ask myself.I hate the new berret,what a **** coulour,but at least we've kept the one thing that distinguishes us as regiment,the FLASH AND HACKLE,anyway thats my opinion on the subject,i hope i have not offended any rrw members on the forum,all the best 24.:smile:

we didnt amalagmate....we mergerd

Just to go back to Don's experience of the Band in Cardiff. They are the descendents of the RRW TA band and proberbly would not (in this day and age) recognise a RWF tie etc. However, that should not deter them from showing some form of common courtesy such as passing the time of day with you. Shows how society has moved on Eh! Don?
As a former member of that Band of Brothers the Regt Band, I extend belated apology on behalf of the union of band members (from a bygone age) for their rudeness and insensitivity. Perhaps the RSM in Cardiff who regularly contributes to this site can pass-on this experience of an unacceptable situation for the Bandmaster/ Director of Music to rectify for the future.


Hingey

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Originally Posted by Paul Hinge

Just to go back to Don's experience of the Band in Cardiff. They are the descendents of the RRW TA band and proberbly would not (in this day and age) recognise a RWF tie etc. However, that should not deter them from showing some form of common courtesy such as passing the time of day with you. Shows how society has moved on Eh! Don?
As a former member of that Band of Brothers the Regt Band, I extend belated apology on behalf of the union of band members (from a bygone age) for their rudeness and insensitivity. Perhaps the RSM in Cardiff who regularly contributes to this site can pass-on this experience of an unacceptable situation for the Bandmaster/ Director of Music to rectify for the future.

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Admit to being slightly bemused by this post - I too was at the Cardiff Veteran's Day parade and saw nothing resembling rudeness or insensitivity - just a busy band of musicians cutting around having moved from venue to venue. In my capacity as President of the Band I'll pass on your concerns, but confess I saw very little of them myself that day given that they had two other engagements, and needed to rehearse prior to each appearance. General consensus was though, that they outshone the RM Band when it came to performing, as I'm sure they will again up in Caernarfon.

With regards not knowing an RWF tie - given that the Band support the RWF Comrades extensively (and will be again this year during the first weekend in September) I am unsure as to whether you're just trying to be provocative or merely speculating?

Anyway - If there was any perceived 'cold-shouldering' - apologies, that was not the intent.

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Originally Posted by Shadwell

What's the history behind the green patch?

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The green patch was retained from the South Wales Borderers on formation of the RRW in 1969. Not unlike the flash, it was kept despite the Cardwell Reforms of 1881 when the 24th Foot officially became the SWB. When the wearing of berets became standardised across the Army, the patch behind the capbadge (a dragon passant) was introduced because the distinction of 'green facings' was lost on modern uniforms.

With the (necessary) loss of the dragon passant in the new Regimental Crest (that used to constitute the buckle of the old RRW stable-belt), the green patch is now the only legacy of the South Wales Borderers on everyday working dress.