In an effort to jog memories here's a close up of Keith.
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In an effort to jog memories here's a close up of Keith.
Sounds like you could be getting closer lads. Well done. I'm dying for this lad to be found and am hoping for a happy ending.
Anita x
Hi Chow,
A couple of points:
1. I've spoken to Mac715. He does recall Keith. He think's he was a member of 10 Pl Deltas. As a Pioneer Mac was attached to that platoon at the Hump for a couple of months. So it may be worthwhile looking again at the 75 picture taken at McCory Park, to establish a time frame of service. Nick Ravenhill(also from Wrexham) agrees with Mac about the Deltas link.
2. Does Roz have his army number, he would most likely be known by his last two, so that may jog someones memory.
3. For Dai 72. Could you ask Michelle if she thinks the Veterans Agency would be able to assist if we had his Service Number. Cheers Dai
thanks al.. great that more people are starting to remember kieth i have been through the inactve members list a/z looking for date links. there is a ron francis joined the forum 8/11/07 he was deltas 72/73 does anyone have contact with ron? kieth was on the hump 73,so could he have have been in the depot70/71 ? ,who was he in training with?
I will pass on to Michelle, but A NI number would be better.
All
Just a thought, if RHQ went through official channels (Glasgow) they could probally find out his Army Number etc. by given his name and DOB.
Believe it or not Dai, this was originally passed to me from RHQ, after Ros had written to them!
Perhaps I should email Arthur later today.
Is there not records of Intakes into the rwf? im sure, when i left,tidworth77 i had to give a forwarding address.as would kieth i would have thought...would that be on record?
Al
Just spoke to Michelle, they are not allowed to do anything. Only option is Glasgow or the Pay Master General. If he writes to Glasgow and they have details they will pass the letter on to him.
Sorry Address:
APC
Kentigern House
65 Brown Street
Glasgow
G2 8EX
!when i left the btn i went on the reservist list,i still have my instruction book/red book..so wouldnt kieth have done the same ..my book is adressed to were i was a year and a half after i left the rgmt is there a record of reservists..
The problem we have is Data Protection:
As Dai as already pointed out his NI Number will locate him fairly quickly. Army Records at Glasgow will have that detail, but will not disclose it. If we could obtain that number, it is possible that the Salvation Army may be able to trace him.
Im fairly confident if we knew what area he resided we could find him by ourselves.
Chow can you check with Roz and ensure she has already tried the Sally Army, they have a formal tracing service, and charge a nominal fee. More details below:
http://www.look4them.org.uk/salvation-army.html
Al i have talked to Rosie on the phone,no go on any numbers,we have both talked to the agency but to tell the truth with out numbers they couldn't help,Rosie has tried the salvation army,but no luck there,i have left a post on the N.I.V.A site so maybe we might get some thing from them..i have also post on all the sites i mentioned so we wait and see from then,i will post any info i get from any of them.....cheers for now..chow.
ps.Al would army recordes have kieths national insurance number?
If as Chow says that information on this site could put Keith in "Danger" (i assume that is what he is saying) this thread should be put to bed and done through another (more secure ) medium. His safety has to be the first priority.
thanks Gwyn,i am certainly not saying that the info we have, would put Kieth or any other person in danger, if i thought that for a moment i wouldn't post it.certainly no more than i would put on face book or similar sites about myself. but the niva site is the only one so far that think that..i didn't leave any more info than, is and has been on this site for a couple of years,if you have a more secure medium in mind please post it.it could aid other in their searches..
I agree Chow, I think republicans have more important things on their mind, than a squaddie from 35 yrs. If their that desperate for targets they can have a whizz through facebook, at least they will have some up to date pics of RWF guys. I would pull the NIVA post if its a problem
Keep chipping away Chow
Steve,
I fully understand what you are saying, but I think that there are a couple of things that I must point out to you.
1. This site is targeted by young Irish Republican dissidents, because of what it stands for. NIVA has been championing the cause of ex NI vets, from both sides of the Irish Sea, for many years, and so of course we do come in for some unwelcome attention.
2. We try to offer a safe environment for all those using the site, and so it was a policy decision from the very start, that outside the members area, (which because all users there are vetted, is secure), NO personal details are allowed to be printed. Now, it could be that your missing friend is either living, or is now in a situation, (marriage etc), where he does not wish his past service to be made public. He would hardly thank you for putting his details on an open web site.
3. I can only suggest that you contact the RBL for details. This site is, unfortunately, not geared up to locate missing friends. Sometimes old mates bump into each other on here, because of association by Regiment/Corps etc.
Dave.
this is a copy of the reply i got from dave a moderator for the NIVA site,it explains there policy on disclosure of personal info...cheers....chow
thanks to a little info from dave warner,he remembers kieth in tidworth 74..
Chow,
I have read the post with much interest and, although I do recognise Keiths photo, I have not seen him since the 70's. I do hope that you all have luck in finding Keith, if only to confirm he is safe.
A forum member has a memory of a possible girl friend and location that kieth may have gone on leave to,i have pm.d rosie the info.Thanks for the info,715.another little peace in the puzzle.
Just an up date.
i have been going through the Inactive members list,and have come across a member.who hasnt been active since 07,
Kieth Hazelaar,
From Anglesea.
His user name is KeithHaz.
Served with the RWF 66/74.
Left in tidworth 74,which would probable have been the same time as kieth roberts,
he names his friends as,
Peter Goldsmith.
Will 64.
jones 08.
Alan biss.
And a roy shirston,
So if any one has any info about any of them,it may help.
Cheers for now..
hi chow,ref roy shirston,I was his boss in newport for 6+ years,he lives in bassleg,newport,when he left group 4 security, roy was working next to the patients office in newport,not far from tredeger roundabout,newport,last time I was with roy he was learning russian,also roy now looks like (peter lorrie)old film star with boris carloff, hope this might help,all the best,mac:smile:
Hi All,
A little bit of info has turned up..
new member,weekendjones,remembers Kieth from tidworth 74 and interestingly ,came across him at a couple of the reunions in wrexham,but not for a few years.so thanks for the info bill,
All names mentioned on the original list are ex-members of the RWF band and I'm in touch with them fairly regularly. Have you ay idea of Keith's last 2 or 3 numbers?
Hingey
Thanks Paul,
but no idea of Kieth roberts last two.
the only ref i have is that kieth would have left the btn at the same time as Kieth Hazlaar 74 tidworth.
so if you are in contact with mr hazlaar,would you ask him if he has any memories of Kieth R.and were he may have gone after he left the btn..
i would have thought they would have been on rear party together.
.cheers for now..
i dont recognise keith from hi photo or hi being b coy?
but i do know where peter goldsmith lives and i will go and ask if he can throw some light on it
regrds
spud
Cheers for that Jack,
Keith was Deltas my friend..
This photo was taken at the hump in Strabane before it was rebuilt, Try ex Col A Phillips (porky) as he looks like a bloke from the mortars pl in the early 70's
Thanks for that Wally.
..mmmm..mortas..have you any contact details for
ex Col A Phillips (porky)..?
Just to let people know Rosie36 is well please that she has another photo
of her brother,thanks to Jason morris(cohe2005).
She is going to put another add in the papers to see if it turns up anything,
Kieth was spotted at one of the annual reunions in wrexham,but a few years ago.still it shows that he is still about.
keep looking..
Chow; as per the Private message,I,ve just looked at the Photograpgh, still cant place him,but it is not snouty as I once suggested,but is that Ianto 10 in the back ground ? Rolly 56
This is a copy of an e/mail recieved today,i have replied with thanks,
lets hope they do find him.
i will of course post any replies i get from them...fingers crossed...
I have let roslyn know of the e/mail.she said she is exited by the news..
..
Subject: BBC 1 Documentary
Message: I hope you do not mind me contacting you; I am currently working for RDF Television on a documentary that is looking to help reunite people with friends and loved ones they have lost touch with. We are assembling a team of expert people finders from various areas such as genealogy and private investigation who we intend to film as they try and use their expertise to track down people who have gone missing.
We are currently searching for cases which we can feature on the programme. I was searching through the ‘lost trails’ section of the Royal British Legion website and came across your entry. I was wondering if you would be interested in our team of trackers looking into your search in the hope we may be able to bring it to a successful conclusion.
If this is something that interests you then please contact me using either of the details below. It would be great to get some more details on your search to see if we might be able to help you.
Many Thanks,
Claire Justin
Researcher
Further to the last post,
after a chat with the tv rep they now have roslyns contact details and will be in touch
with her soon.i also had a chat with roslyn and she is well exited.
so a little bit of luck and she may find her brother after all...
cheers for now...
So did it all go ahead? I see Ros has found Keith and I couldn't be happier for her but please tell us how it finally came about. Well done to all who helped. What a great bunch you are.
Anita xx
Hi Anita,
We havent yet found Kieth,but with the help of the tv people i am hopefull
that they can unearth some info that gives us a location,
Roslyn will put another add in the papers.though we didnt have much luck last time.
you never know..
I will update as info comes in..
Just a little more info.
i had a reply to a message left on,
my oldmates.com.
the replier says we should find kieth in Rhyl.
so any member in Rhyl have an ask about in your local.
i have left an add in the lost contacts section of the north wales freeadds.
and have informed rosie of the new info..
cheers for now.
I do hope he is found and all is well.
Anita x