Junior leaders/soldiers battalions.

[neil(george)wilson]

Talking to an old friend on the phone last night, someone I haven't seen or heard of for over thirty years, and thinking that I knew pretty much everything about him I was surprised to hear him tell me that he'd been a junior leader at the same camp I had been, only I joined a year after he'd left. Now I know there are a couple of others on the forum who also have been junior leader/soldier because I have talked with them about it so I was just wondering, how many are there of us out there who were juniors at Oswestry, Shorncliff, Rhyl etc before joining the battalion?

Neil Wilson
IJLB Park Hall Camp
Oswestry
Shropshire
Sep 1967 to Dec 1969.

[Rog Ball 01]

I am an ex Junior from two units, which are:

Roger Ball
A Coy
AAJLB
Tonfanu
Jun 62 to Sep 63


A Coy
JTR Rhyl
Sep 63 to Jan 65

[Paul Davies 701]

19 plt Pennisula Coy
IJLB Shorncliff
12th September 1978 to 12th August 1979.

I then went back along with Roger Littlehales as a trained soldier for 6 weeks.

[sox3044]

17 Platoon IJLB Shorncliff 1983-84

Sox
Shady Kent
Garry Hull ( Skully)
Pete Evans 02
Littleford

[jeffdj]

IJLB Shorncliffe
Sept77 - Aug78
Me
Mark Adams
Andy Ruffley
and Steve Vale i think
I completed 22yrs Mark is still going almost 32 years later Andy 22 yrs and vickery i think transfered to RLC dont know how long he done

[ap1]

Sept 77 - Aug 78(oops)
Junior Soldiers Company
Cwrt Y Gollen

All these 12 guys joined the Bn, 4 of us completed 22+(would have been 5, but one took redundency in the early 90's). Only one finished at the 3yr point whilst we were in Lemgo, everyone else served at least 4-5yrs with the Bn. Binning Juniors was a massive recruiting and retention error.

Al Poole
Keith Darlington
Dai Hood
Ian Garbutt
Rob Mathews
Jones 70
Davies 54(Mortars)
Mim (Jones 69)
Mike Simmister
Barry Hutchinson
Gags Saunders
Sean Jones 67(Peelow)
Dillon(transferred to REME after approx 10 yrs service)

Myself, Gabby and Peelow completed 22+ RWF Service.

Thinks thats all?

[Ray Edwards 31]

Al
looking at the dates you were in JL. you must have been the oldest one in the Plt.

[Smokeyjoe]

For my sins I was posted to IJLB Oswestry from Jan 1963 to Feb 1966 as a bugler/ reg police, later I was posted to JTR Kinmel Park Camp Rhyl from Jun 1970 to Jun 1972 Skill at Arms wing.
Writting down the dates reminds me how old I am now, happy day's.
Joe.

[Scouse75]

JIB(Juniour Leaders) Shornecliffe.

1988 2 Platoon Salamanca Coy(POW Div)

LT BGT 'Toby' Ward/Lt Sean Price: Plt Commanders
Richie 64:Plt Sgt
Dillon: Sec Commander

Me,Wyn Parry, Neil Jones14(RQMS 1st Bn), Paul Campbell, Tom Parry,Jase Norman, Will(49?), Les Packer, 'Dans' Daniels, any other?

[mick carnell 53]

ijlb oswestry

sept 69 Dec 70 B Coy Prince of Wales, and light inf/green jackets

[britaylor49]

Junior Soldiers Coy Cwrt Y Gollen 81 - 82

Salamanca Pl

Bri Taylor 49
Andy Hughes 37 (sigs)
Mark Catherall
Rik Oshea
Tony (spike) Robrts 63
Dave Coppack

Plassey Pl

Rob Jones 60
Derek Thomas 50
Barry Cunniff
Edwards 54 ( cant remember Eddies first name?)

Great Time and Great Memories. Only Barry Cunniff and Myself completed 22 years

[chow]

september 72..june 74
Junior Soldiers .
Cwrt Y Gollen

[neil(george)wilson]

Here's something that may be of interest to one and all.

You may or may not know that there is an 'IBB & IJLB Association' and it represents all the infantry boy soldiers who served from 1958 to 1985 at camps all over the country. There is too, for the very first time, a reunion parade, (including military band) that will be marching in Oswestry this June the 7th where the Town's Mayor will unvail a comemoritive plaque.

For further info or just a look-see go to: www.IBB & IJLB (http://www.IBB & IJLB)

[John Turner]

IJLB Oswestry May 70 - Jul or Aug 72.

In fact it was May 5th 1970 I arrived at Park Hall Camp.

A quick bit of mental arithmetic told me that that was 39 years ago to tne day - and my calculator confirmed that.

Thanks a bunch!

[Scouse75]

Sid Burns..........

Ludlow March 16th 1689, with Lord Herbert of Chirbury!!!

[Bean10]

Myself and Rick Hitchman both 15 Platoon Burma Company JIB Shorncliffe Apr 88

Instructors in the Company Included Kev fear and Mark Harry.

[Lofty-25]

Junior Soldier

Cwrt-Y-Gollen

09 May 1978 - 10 May 79 (31 years ago yesterday)


Paul Blitzko
Carl Jones 95 (Med Centre)
Tracey Lee (Bugsy)
Martin Sloane
Gareth Williams 26 (Sigs)


Instructors:

Sgt Shaun McCormack
Cpl Pete Owen 37
Cpl ? ? ? Evans 17

[davidrmac]

Junior Soldier Depot Crickhowell
11th May 1976 33 years ago today !
Marlborough Platoon
Sect Comm . Ozzie Lloyd

Training Company , Malaya 6 .

Only RW I remember joining with was Carl Needham Drums Platoon . I believe he went out on redundancy , perhaps Rik can confirm .

[Clive Rees (08)]

JIW Fulwood Barracks, Preston. I'm sure that there are not many RWF that attended there.
I only know of two, myself and Jeff Thomas 51

[keithwill38]

Carl Needham transfered i think to the Hampshire Regt:rolleyes:

[Fortyfive]

I did time in Cwrt y Gollen, from Jan 73 untill August 74 Trainging company from April 74. with Chow, Alwyn Cook, Mo Ulla, Steve Gavain, Dai Beer, Geff White, Benny Nash, Rees 05, Dai Hart, Lampsie (Junior Band Mick Tom, Pedro, Cadwalader, Garry Philips )

[jpswales]

I was at IJLB Shorncliff Peninsular Coy 1979-80, was there with Dai Davies from Lampeter, he did 3 years with the Batt,seen him again mid 90s in a car park in Aberystwyth,short chat then gone again.Any body out there seen him or know of him, say hello,if he has won the lottery,remind him becouse he has possibly forgotten, that we promised to share any large amounts of money that we came into, this pact was made in the students bar in Lemgo, after a beer or 2,3,4,5,6,etc, he has possibly had a memory lapse and forgotten this.Travelling from Folkstone to Dolgellau, was very similer to travelling to the moon, nearly the same distance, definitely the same travelling time, and possibly the same prospect of seeing something strange and wierd.
Thank you for your time and patience, may your flocks multiply, and may your pizza allways give you that nice warm comforting feeling that only pizza brings.
Yours Steve Polty
ps, still dont understand why I am on Jas Saralis message board, technology
eh!

[Mike Thomas]

I joined the Junior Leaders Regiment Royal Engineers at Old Park Barracks in Dover in September 1972. Transferred to the Junior Band at Cwrt y Gollen in January 1973.
Llywelyn Platoon Commander was Lt. Lofty Lloyd also there Nick Ravenhill and Breslin. In the Band there were Cpl Smudge Smith, Bandmaster John Brush BSM Johnny Bellairs

Mo Ullah
Selwyn 45
Chris Jones 25
Pedro
Gerry Philips

and many many others

[DP43]

18 Pl, Peninsula Coy IJLB 1984 -85

Gary Jenkins RWF RLC
Chris Philips RWF AGC
Martain Ward RWF
Dave Parry RWF

All of us did 22 years.

The CSM for a while was WO2 Curtis? Section Commander was Clem. Buzz Bowen did a stint on the RP's. There was an old sweat Lcpl Storemen whose name I can't remember who said he was an Army sprinter - in his younger years.

[nasher546]

Joined the Depot Crickhhowell JS Coy on 11 May 1971. Remember it as if it were yesterday. A very sunny warm day. Plt Comd - Lt Hodges. Plt Sgt - Danny Donavon (RIP). Best days of my life! Guys I remember - Tabbot (RIP), Bishop, Watkins, Cpl Shagger Smith, McCarthy (RIP), Parry, Cpl Ray Coughlin. Many others who were good friends. Good old days. Had the privaledge of going back twice as a Plt Sgt and on the RYT. A wonderfull part of the world.

[Rog Ball 01]

Paul

RWF Perm Staff at the time you joined, Terry Roberts, Major Mike Lewis, myself, Eddie Gunstone, Shaun Mc, Roly Jenkins,

[nasher546]

Paul

RWF Perm Staff at the time you joined, Terry Roberts, Major Mike Lewis, myself, Eddie Gunstone, Shaun Mc, Roly Jenkins,

Rog,

Many thanks for the reminder you are absoloutly right. It's funny how it kicks in the memory. I do remember you on the MT. Others that spring to mind, Snouty Roberts = Plt Sgt, QM Harold Bound and Ginger (the barber).

[eightyseven]

JIB Shorncliffe 14 PL Burma Coy 1987.
With me in that intake were Gringo, Ray Wood & the current RSM of 1RW Wayne Roberts. Instructors were Brian Bloor ( my sect commander) & Dai Williams 72.
Other in a different block were Anthony McCarten, also remember Adamson, first name i cant recall.
Great Days though.

[fives]

Started my training in Crickhhowell 1979,recruits were Neil Heir (anyone know what he is up to these days,also Griff 54,Instructors were Csgt Dando,Cpl Bennett i think transfered to All arms school core,Cpl Maslin (never seen him again)Mouse Terry,Lance Edmonds,a mad provo Sgt cannot remember his name,and OC was Maj Silverside,Allwyn Cook was in the stores in the cookhouse (great bloke) Fantastic days never forget,if anyone has any info on whos doing what i would be glad to here.
Thanks:GEEK:
Fives

[Paulharris]

Clive I remmber you We served at fulwood 71-73 hope your still on here

[Paul Davies 701]

IJLB Shorncliffe, Folkstone
19 Plt Peninsula Company
1978-1979

[MalBall]

Quite a few of the Drums Platoon started off as Junior Soldiers, some went to Hong Kong, NI. then Tidworth. Colin Rogers, Dave Howell, Mike Jones 66, Dave Simmister, Tom Hillard and myself Mal Ball. Unfortunately Jaffa Thomas and Adrian Parker have passed on. I joined in 1968, boy soldier Drums Plt Junior Soldiers Company Cwrt-y-Gollen. Only believe only Tom Hillard and myself did 22 years. Happy days.

[CARL PUGH]

Started in Crickhowell 1st May 79 until 80, with a few others from the Battalion. One who comes to mind is P.A. Williams 91 (Rocky) and if I remember rightly the only two to complete 22 years.

[keithwill38]

Terry Rees,Spike Whittle,dave Smith 19,myself(and did 22 yrs)

[BennytheBall]

JIB Shorncliffe
D Company (POW Division)
1969 - 1971 5th intake

[Pete Dagnall]

Started off in Cwrt Y Gollen as a Junior Drummer, Sept 65 to May 68. Joined battalion in Honiton and for some reason I was posted directly to Recce Plt Command Company. Finished service in 1990 having completed 22 years service.

[mick carnell 53]

IJLB, Park Hall Camp, Oswestry September 9th 1968. POW Company, I think it was B Coy. Joined Bn in Hong Kong with Benny Ball and Kim Hibberd, great times.

[John Turner]

Oswestry was something else!

I called in there ... or at least where it was ... on my way back from last year's comrades weekend and paid my respects to the starter of this thread.

There is a garden in his memory at the location of the armoury. It was a very strange experience trying to imagine where everything was and what went on there, where there is nothing much at all now, but I'll be repeating it again this year.

I didn't serve at the same time as Neil but I met him at a sigs reunion in Wrexham shortly before he passed away.



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[mick carnell 53]

I was in Oswestry 9 Sept 68-70

[Jones55]

Hi All

I was at IJLB Oswestry April 72 - Aug 74
B company
with Dave Johnson79 (who was my best man in 1976)
Recce pln at Tidworth then Vigilant then C Compay
Went from Lemgo to the Depot Crickhowell 78 to 82
Then transfered to SASC in 82
Medically discharged at 22 year point in 96
Living in Tamworth

[Radar]

I was also at Oswestry 1972 - 1974 (can't remember months) and was there with Alan Ankers, Gary Fitzek and Alan Caan (who I believe has passed away).
I remember it as quite scary for a 15yr old, first time away from home but it turned out to be the some of the best years of my life. From there joined the signals platoon at Tidworth.
Oh to return to those good days!

[LightOrder]

7 platoon, B Coy. 1965 - 1967
IJLB Park Hall Camp
Oswestry
Shropshire