Reseachers.. Help please

[chow]

Hi

I am looking for any info on a chap by the name of

Gwinnut / gwynnut

he was in service. Burried in the military cemetery in Malta

A long shot I know but with a name like he has there may be something

Thanks chow.

[Baconwallah]

There are three CWGC cemeteries there, or rather two cemeteries (one mainly RN, one exclusively civvy) and one memorial (mainly RAF/RCAF).
No Gwynnut/Gwinnut to be found.

Could you give us an idea of the time frame, chow?

John

[chow]

Thanks for the reply John.

I am searching for a none military friend
I will ask him for a few details I guess I should really have got the info first
Sorry about that I will get back to you.

[Bob Bacon]

I have found a Charles GWINNUTT, Sergeant, 820912, 222 Battery, HAA Regiment, Royal Artillery, died 27th April 1942, aged 27 years. The son of Charles Joseph and Edith Gwinnutt, and husband of Dorothy May Gwinnutt, of Derby

http://website.lineone.net/~stephaniebidmead/imtarfa.htm

[chow]

Thanks for the reply Bob.
I have made note of the Gwinnutt details and will check with the searcher
And pass on the link..

Chow.

[Baconwallah]

Brilliant, Bob. I searched for 'Malta' and the CWGC site never brought up the Imtarfa Cemetery. We live and learn.

John

[chow]

Big thanks Bob and John.

My friend is really pleased the chap is his grandfathers brother and
Was confirmed by his mum who would also like to thank you.
My mother is in Malta at the moment so I will ask her husband. Members name vori101 to go on a mission for me.

Thanks again.

Steve.

[ivor43]

just got your message chow. i know of a war graves cemetry at the old pembroke camp an i believe there is at least one more outside valetta.will make some enquiries and try to get some photos of the grave. may take me a couple of weeks but will be in touch as soon as i have something.

[Baconwallah]

http://www.cwgc.org/plans/9-21/M002.GIFJust to save you some searching, vori:

Imtarfa Military Cemetery is about 1 kilometre to the north east of Mdina. It is 3 kilometres from Mosta and 1 kilometre from Rabat. Cemetery address: Triq Buqana, Imtarfa. GPS Co-ordinates: 35.890972, 14.409556.

Sorry the map is so small, couldn't get it any bigger. The (communal) grave is marked with a red dot..

John

[ivor43]

thanks for the info john.
been to mdina a couple of times so i have a rough idea of the area.incidently it is spelt mtarfa.but i didnt know there was a war graves cemetry there. there is also a large cemetry in vittoriosa,i think, which i will find.
i have some contacts with the british legion over here so i will see what info they come up with,if any.
as a few of us go out regularly walking i think this seems like a good plan for one of our walks.
will be in touch soon.

[ivor43]

hi all.
found the coordinates of the grave on www.cwgc.org (http://www.cwgc.org) . hopefully i will be able to get up there on tuesday.
as john mentioned a communal grave i think a bit of explanation is in order. as malta is at it's maximum only 20 miles by 9, and cremation is not allowed on the island burial space is in very short supply,
also as malta is sandstone every bit of agricultural land is used , so all graves are dug out of the rock, so they rarely dig individual holes. however once a body has been in a grave for 2 to 3 years the bones are removed from the grave and taken to a bone vault.where they remain and the grave re-used,a plaque is then put on the wall of the cemetry.
but the graves maintained by the cwgc are not subject to this system, they remain untouched.

ivor

[Baconwallah]

Bob Bacon has assisted in replacing my too small map with a real one (thanks Bob). The red dot appears to have gone AWOL in the process, so here is the relevant part of the map again.

John

[ivor43]

hi all
have got some pics of the grave. the first 3 are of the cemetry the 4 th is the grave, he is the 2nd name from the top and the final pic is the inscription on the stone.
the cemetry is about 2 miles from mtarfa. We actualy passed it on the bus to mdina. chow if your friend should ever wish to visit the site let me know and i'll give you detailed directions.
i was'nt sure if we were going t be able to make the trip today as we had about 2 hours of torrential rain this morning but it cleared by 10 am and was abut 18deg when the sun came out :) sorry should'nt have said that. ha ha

ivor

[chow]

Thanks Ivor.
I have forwarded the e/mail with the pics to the searcher
And I will pass on your invite .

And thank John and Bob for your help.

Chow

Oh.Ivor.
If you visit any of the other cemeteries can you look out
For any welsh servicemens resting places I sure they will be of interest ...

[ivor43]

hi.
thanks for that.and of course i wish to thank bob and john for their help.i will try and find the other cwgc locations. i do look for any graves with welsh connections. i saw in interesting one in mtarfa.the chap died 1920's he was r.a.f but had been r.f.c.(royal flying corps ). walking these cemeteries is very interesting.
any other info i find i will pass on.
a couple of interesting road names in the old camp area..St Davids road and Conway close. I wondered if there was a welsh connection.
i have a couple of pics of them and i wondered if they might be of interest to the forum.

ivor