bird in welsh

[steve bird]

hello everone, would any of our welsh speaking members tell/ show me how to spell bird in welsh please and thank you.:huh:

[Gwyn Nicholas]

Aderyn - apparently it is a modern Welsh name. Hope that helps Steffan (Welsh for Stephen)

My name - Gwyn means, Fair - which I was - White, which is what I am now - Blessed, maybe with looks but not in the trouser department!

Dilwyn you get the same as me but with an added - Genuine! (Dilys) how unfair is that!

[tom33]

sorry nic.but when i went to school gwyn was white..and bird was deryn..right about dilwyn though.waiting quitetly for your response...

[Gwyn Nicholas]

Not being a Welsh speaker Tom I really cannot argue the point. You are of course right that Gwyn means White (as I indicated) however having done a little research* I noted some additions (I presume area differences) Fair, Blessed and also Shining and Holy.

My research only showed Aderyn for Bird which differs slightly from Deryn that you say you learnt in school. Whilst in the Battalion I did note on a few occasions when listening to a South Walian and a North Walian in conversation (Den 27 and the late Eifion Jones 80) that some words did differ slightly so I suppose it is possible that they are both correct according to dialect. Perhaps a South Wales Welsh speaker could comment. I would be interested to know.

*(Scource- Department of Welsh - University of Wales, Lampeter)

[5haron]

I always use Deryn for small birds and Ader (yn) for a larger bird or collective birds.

[Paul Hinge]

As Sharron states,that's exactly what we would use here in our conversations in the language of the poets here in Aberystwyth.

Cofion cynnes

Hingey

[steve bird]

many thank s to you all,gwyn ,tom,sharon, and mr hinge my son and his wife have just changed thier surname to aderyn and named thier new daughter gwen,my three other younger grandchildern are all learning to speak welsh in school ,so now i have to enrole so i can keep up with them. again thank you.:smile:

[Thom15]

My name - Gwyn means, Fair - which I was - White, which is what I am now - Blessed, maybe with looks but not in the trouser department!

Dilwyn you get the same as me but with an added - Genuine! (Dilys) how unfair is that!

Hmmm!!! Genuine, Fair.... sounds like me. I had a girlfriend called Dilys (Lewis), she was a cracker. I wonder whatever happened to her.

[Gwyn Nicholas]

She had a lucky escape Dilwyn Bach!

As I mentioned earlier, Aderyn is supposed to be a "modern" Welsh word. Looking a little deeper, I found that Deryn is actually the Celtic name meaning Bird.

[tom33]

always said you were a fast learner nic...by the way gwen means fair...and our sharon is spot on...(as usual)

[Gwyn Nicholas]

Tom I try, Gwen means White: Fair: Blessed and is the Female version of Gwyn. It may also be short for Gwendolen meaning White Ring.

As a matter of interest, Francis is from the Latin for Franciscus which means FRENCHMAN and Thomas was introduced to England by the Normans.... Bonjour!

(Source : The Etymology of First Names)

[Paul Hinge]

Hey Gwyn

What's wrong with a degree in Politics?

Although I do agree that some in Parliament who have some sort of a degree, have had in reality no life experience, they have just gone from Uni to the City or indeed in some cases straight to work in Parliament then onto the Party short lists and hey presto they've been elected.

I think it should be mandatory for every person standing for a national election to have experienced working in the real world for at least 5 years before coming forward as a candidate for a national election.

Before I get shot down, this is just a personal view not very Liberal you might argue but I'm so tired of watching some on those green benches in Westminster, who although very eloquent, have no concept of what life is really about for the normal man/woman on the street!


Hingey

[Thom15]

You obviously have too much time on your hands since the knee op young Gwyn.

[Gwyn Nicholas]

You obviously have too much time on your hands since the knee op young Gwyn.

I make no apologies for my "meagre" efforts. If only one person finds the post
remotely interesting or can see the subtle humour therin, (note the removal of part of the post which makes Hingey look like he has lost the plot) then I think it was worthwhile. (Connect thread "3000 Member")

Incidently the name NICHOLAS is believed to be of Greek origin and means LEADER...what can I say?

(before the slings and arrows come out...this is TIC)

[davidrmac]

I make no apologies for my "meagre" efforts. If only one person finds the post
remotely interesting or can see the subtle humour therin, then I think it was worthwhile. (Connect thread "3000 Member")

Incidently the name NICHOLAS is believed to be of Greek origin and means LEADER...what can I say?

Hi Nick , tongue in cheek it could also mean ;
N - Not
I - In
C - Charge
H - Has
O - Only
L - Lost
A - Ability
S - (to) Stand (right now) :biglaugh:

Keep up the excellent research my friend .

[Gwyn Nicholas]

Ouch!
McCarthy comes from the Gailic Maccarthaigh. The clan was the richest and most powerful clan in Munster before Norman and British Rule.

M - marauders
C - came
C - conquered
A - and
R - robbed.
T - The
H - heathen
Y - ya-hoos (crude or brutish person)

(The heathen Ya-hoos refers to the invaders and not the Clan Maccarthaigh)

I'm starting to wonder if any of us on this Forum are actually Welsh. (TIC)

[davidrmac]

The Normans must have nicked all of their wedge because current McCarthy's (this lot anyway) are most certainly not rich or powerful .
Thanks for that mate .

[davidrmac]

Ouch!
McCarthy comes from the Gailic Maccarthaigh. The clan was the richest and most powerful clan in Munster before Norman and British Rule.

M - marauders
C - came
C - conquered
A - and
R - robbed
T - the
H - heathen
Y - ya-hoos (crude or brutish person)

I'm starting to wonder if any of us on this Forum are actually Welsh. (TIC)

I quite liked the other version , but that's okay , this one is fine also , don't be jumping up and down too much this weekend what with the rugby etc . Have a good one mate .