Members Advertisement page

[Barry69]

Good day fellow forum members I have been talking with Bob with regards to having a Members Advertisement page were members on the forum can advertise their trades businesses and what ever we deem of use to other members I would like your thoughts on the matter

Personally I feel its better to hand over our hard cash to a friend for the work done rather then someone we do not know - Keeping it in the family and yes it is making the forum work for us but after all its our Forum!

Your thoughts Ladies & Gentlemen

A Fee could also be submitted to help support the maintenance of the Forum


PS Adverts would be come under the control of our moderators regards content as normal but a guarantee of the standard or quality of any work/services undertaken would not

[nasher546]

Barry,

I would be OK with this idea, however I totally agree a fee should be donated to the forum for advertising. On the point of advertising, I believe this should definitely be closely monitored as I would get frustrated if, when I opened the forum all I saw was advertisements.

[Barry69]

Yes mate I agree I think it would be a tab of sorts (confirm Bob) so that only if you wished to view you would go there, as a page loaded with adds would be difficult to follow and annoying I guess, but as I am not a Tech minded guy the if it can be done like that, would have to come from our fantastic forum team?

[nasher546]

Yes mate I agree I think it would be a tab of sorts (confirm Bob) so that only if you wished to view you would go there, as a page loaded with adds would be difficult to follow and annoying I guess, but as I am not a Tech minded guy the if it can be done like that, would have to come from our fantastic forum team?

Happy with that mate.

[Gwyn Nicholas]

I think it is a great idea, however levying a charge for advertising may leave the Forum open to question from the Tax man. It is one thing making a voluntary contribution for the upkeep of the site, but a charge for advertising I would imagine, would be classed as an income. Just a thought and not wishing to put a dampener on the idea.

[Paul Davies 701]

Funny enough, Alun Davies 46 was talking about this today in work, I know we'd be up for a bit of advertisement on here.

[Thom15]

Sounds like a good idea to me.

[BennytheBall]

Would it mean that Delboy Trotter could become a member? Only Joking. Barry an excellent idea. Go for it.

Best Regards
BennytheBall

[Braz]

Surely the Taxman wouldn't be able to touch it if it was a Voluntary Donation? Or on paper anyway. Great idea though and work for the boys. Braz:smile:

[Paul Hinge]

This is a great idea. However, I have a few words of caution.
Any form of advertising will be classed as business by the revenue and therefore subject to taxation. Forum Managers etc will need to clarify the position with HMRC prior to going ahead with this but I use advertising on web-sites of clients and my accountant cannot get the revenue to waiver a fee even if the client donated my fee to a charity.
Secondly, if anyone is going to pay for this facility be it as a donation or as a fee then no self-respecting business would allow the web-site to have a blocking facility for advertising because that's the whole idea of an advert, it attracts immediate attention to the user, they of course can choose to ignore it if they so wish.
I'm not trying to be a bringer of bad tidings just pointing out some potential pitfalls.

Cofion

Hingey

www.phassociates.co.uk Just me being cheeky!

[martinthomas]

I"m all for members of the Forum helping fellow members,what about the individual making the donation,not the business, ie the donation is paid from the individual"s account and is therefore not tax claimable to them and not treated as trading income by the Forum. Worth asking the Tax man.

[davidrmac]

Hi Guys ,
Hingey is spot on with regards to HMRC . Whatever the medium , if services are offered to an audience then it is classed as advertising . There are strict guidelines issued by the HMRC and even donations from personal accounts are not acceptable and attract a liability to the HMRC .

It is a great idea by Barry but the implications are significant and coupled with an extension of the input required by the moderator team would make it unfeasable .

Quite a lot of local media is purely funded by advertising which enables that media to remain in publication . This is classed as a business which attracts liabilities to the HMRC .
This forum relies totally on the donations from it's members and as such attracts no liability to the HMRC .

Personally , I do not see a way around this . It maybe that forum members make better use of their profiles and clearly state what they do without touting so to speak . We all read each others profiles and there is nothing wrong with anyone posing the question , "does anybody know someone who does........" through the normal "post your questions here" channel .

In conclusion , a great idea however , fraught with legal implications and an absolute nightmare to administer .

I am all for helping each other out as let's face it we all need a hand now and then . We are a family , we have been brought up that way , we will always remain a family and ways be there for each other . All it takes is a call or a message and if we can , we will help .

Just my thoughts lads / ladies .

[jungle1810]

Gentlemen,
Re the position of upsetting the tax man over our new proposed page. If you can come under the umbrella of the RWFCA association (RHQ Wrexham) we might be able to use our Charity number and be excused paying tax.
Regards RBD

[Gwyn Nicholas]

Gentlemen,
Re the position of upsetting the tax man over our new proposed page. If you can come under the umbrella of the RWFCA association (RHQ Wrexham) we might be able to use our Charity number and be excused paying tax.
Regards RBD

Al Capone could not get away with Tax evasion but under an umbrella of RWFCA we could probably pull it off. What is there to lose...The head of the Forum being charged with an offence, RWFCA charged for aiding and abetting and the Loss of the charity number at the RWFCA. Worth thinking about. Any comment from RHQ?

[John Turner]

What's the big deal? Just have a "Members' ads" link in the sidebar - just like the associations & clubs, military news, etc etc.

What already exists in the sidebar needs work as in updating and monitoring and no-one pays for that.

If it's free then the taxman is out of the equation - ads would be submitted for approval; I don't think anyone flogging viagra would cut it.

Of course being a donator may help - wink wink!

If anyone wanted to go for advertising bigtime - like having a piad-for link on the homepage as a sponsor or something, that might be a different ballgame and it would be down to Bob to decide if he wanted to change the look of the homepage to include commercial stuff just as it would if he wanted the extra work of vetting and placing 'free' ads.

[jungle1810]

Hello Gwyn,
I am very glad Alcatraz has been closed down. The comparison was possibly a bit IFFY. But I do know what you mean.
Number 4939c/o Alcatraz
Regards Brian akajungle